1/25/2006 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript

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[Megha Sharma] 9:05 pm: the plan is to keep the meeting short today
[Megha Sharma] 9:05 pm: John, any updates for the group this week?
[John Evans] 9:05 pm: Yes..
[John Evans] 9:06 pm: I've contacted Josh and Ryan to send me any materials that may be lying around their offices..
[John Evans] 9:06 pm: I received a check from St. Loius U for dues..
[Matt Cruce] 9:06 pm: woohoo
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[John Evans] 9:07 pm: Wondering if Josh and Megha received their conference checks, since they are the only ones that haven't cleared
[Megha Sharma] 9:07 pm: yea, I did..thanks
[John Evans] 9:08 pm: Also, Chris sent me some donation info
[Josh Nelson] 9:08 pm: Will be clearing it next week hopefully *crosses fingers*
[John Evans] 9:08 pm: so as sson as everything arrives I can assemble it for the IRS
[John Evans] 9:09 pm: Have either of you mailed the packages yet?
[John Evans] 9:09 pm: Josh/Ryan
[Ryan McLinko] 9:09 pm: I did earlier today
[Josh Nelson] 9:09 pm: Still looking for SEDS NAtional data. have 3 filing cabinets to go through
[Josh Nelson] 9:09 pm: most of it is SEDS local
[John Evans] 9:09 pm: OK
[John Evans] 9:10 pm: I'm sure if anything was out there Chris would of had it
[John Evans] 9:10 pm: that's all I got
[Josh Nelson] 9:10 pm: probally
[John Evans] 9:11 pm: questions?
[Megha Sharma] 9:12 pm: Josh u wanna go next?
[Josh Nelson] 9:12 pm: Sure
[Josh Nelson] 9:13 pm: Allright, as you all probally have read on SEDS.org (yes I assume you have no lives like myself and check it daily) we have recieved 6 proposals for the National Zero-G flight
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[Josh Nelson] 9:13 pm: The chapters and their projects are as follows:
[Josh Nelson] 9:13 pm: SEDS-UW: Rayliegh Taylor flow in a zero gravity environment
[Josh Nelson] 9:13 pm: SEDS-Caltech: Time perception in Microgravity
[Josh Nelson] 9:14 pm: SEDS-UA: Collision of aggregate bodies with frost binding agent
[Josh Nelson] 9:14 pm: SEDS-MIT: Reduced Gravity Aerogel formation
[Josh Nelson] 9:14 pm: SEDS-UCF: Soldering in Zero-G
[Josh Nelson] 9:14 pm: SEDS-Illinois: Cerianthus Membranaceus and Geotropism, An Astrobiology Experiment.
[Josh Nelson] 9:15 pm: Kirk and I are working to assemble a alumni/industry board to review the proposals, but as of right now it is looking promising for these chapters to fly
[Josh Nelson] 9:15 pm: I am waiting for Tim Bailey to finish preliminarily looking over the proposals before we identify the next critical deadline for the chapters.
[Josh Nelson] 9:16 pm: (Tim works for Zero-G and is our primary contact)
[Josh Nelson] 9:16 pm: Overall I am very pleased with the turnout. There are some excellent proposals here.
[Josh Nelson] 9:17 pm: We might even be able to do a little symposium at the next SEDS conference if all this research works out.
[Todd Romberger] 9:17 pm: that would be cool
[Megha Sharma] 9:18 pm: other than money, there should be no other issue with them flying, rite?
[Josh Nelson] 9:19 pm: We have 27 seats on the plane, 2 of which Kirk and I are reserving for media
[Josh Nelson] 9:19 pm: right now I think the chapters have 26 members total wanting to fly
[Josh Nelson] 9:20 pm: and we might also want 1-2 seats for major sponsors
[Josh Nelson] 9:20 pm: so hence the need for the alumni board for selection of projects etc
[Josh Nelson] 9:21 pm: Kirk and I are confident we will be able to "flex" this to work
[Josh Nelson] 9:21 pm: also there are several members of SEDS who work for Zero-G
[Megha Sharma] 9:21 pm: would this selection process de-select one/more chapters from flying
[Josh Nelson] 9:22 pm: who might be able to fly jointly as members and crew
[Josh Nelson] 9:22 pm: right now the selection process will rank the chapters in order of preference of flight status.
[Josh Nelson] 9:23 pm: Kirk and I will chug the numbers this week and do everything we can to get all chapters flying
[Josh Nelson] 9:23 pm: I would much rather have 6 chapters flying than 5
[Kirk Kittell] 9:23 pm: I assume all chapters will fly
[Megha Sharma] 9:23 pm: I think we should let all chapters fly, irrespective just to boost up the morale for other chapters
[Kirk Kittell] 9:23 pm: will all members be able to fly? maybe, maybe not -- nothing is set in stone yet
[Megha Sharma] 9:23 pm: yea, that sounds like a better deal
[Todd Romberger] 9:24 pm: Yeah I would think that some of the chapters with alot of people may be flexible a person or two
[Josh Nelson] 9:24 pm: Any other questions or comments from the board?
[Josh Nelson] 9:24 pm: Agreed
[Megha Sharma] 9:26 pm: All we need to do collectively as Nationals and also at chapter level is to publicise this immensely
[Josh Nelson] 9:27 pm: I am open to suggestions on the best ways to publicise this pre-launch
[Josh Nelson] 9:27 pm: ideas?
[Megha Sharma] 9:27 pm: are u/Kirk going to be working on that in a way, since u talked about reserving seats for media?
[Josh Nelson] 9:27 pm: SEDS-UW has already given me a press release they would like submitted to space.com and some others
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[Kirk Kittell] 9:27 pm: Wired Magazine will be on board
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[Megha Sharma] 9:28 pm: cool
[Megha Sharma] 9:28 pm: started kicking u off already, Lizzi?
[Lindsay Newton] 9:28 pm: unfortunately
[Megha Sharma] 9:29 pm: ok any questions/ideas for Josh?
[Megha Sharma] 9:29 pm: Kirk do u have anything to add?
[Kirk Kittell] 9:29 pm: no -- Josh has it covered well
[Kirk Kittell] 9:30 pm: well, one thing -- I timed the flight so that it's the weekend immediately preceding Apr 12 / Yuri's Night
[Megha Sharma] 9:30 pm: ok..moving on
[Megha Sharma] 9:30 pm: Expansion?
[Matt Cruce] 9:30 pm: yep
[Matt Cruce] 9:31 pm: exciting week...University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa, Carleton U in Canada and University of Texas - Austin are in the process of joining
[Matt Cruce] 9:32 pm: St. Louis U as John said sent their dues which was unexpected but i had e-mailed them in december about joining
[Matt Cruce] 9:33 pm: and I'm still working to compile contacts...i will send out an e-mail to the 65 schools I have contacts for tomorrow and keep working from there
[Matt Cruce] 9:33 pm: its a slow process right now
[Matt Cruce] 9:33 pm: If anyone has ANY contacts at ANY University please send them my way
[Josh Nelson] 9:33 pm: Are we going to be incorperating Carelton U into SEDS USA? or SEDS-Earth? Maybe since SEDS-Canada is having such a hard time staying on it's feet, should we think about becoming SEDS-North America?
[Matt Cruce] 9:33 pm: any e-mail address is worth a shot
[Matt Cruce] 9:34 pm: that would be a board decision in collaboration with what is left with seds-canada
[Matt Cruce] 9:34 pm: i had informed them of joining SEDS-Earth
[Kirk Kittell] 9:34 pm: there's a new board in seds-canada as of Nov/Dec
[Matt Cruce] 9:34 pm: and Kirk put them in touch with some other canadians
[Josh Nelson] 9:34 pm: Cool. Just wasnt sure what the status was because I remember SEDS-Canada dissolving last year
[Matt Cruce] 9:35 pm: by the way ...i am unclear on our role with SEDS Earth
[Matt Cruce] 9:35 pm: do we control SEDS-Earth info?
[Kirk Kittell] 9:35 pm: it's just another chapter, but without any geographical borders
[Matt Cruce] 9:35 pm: ok
[Kirk Kittell] 9:35 pm: not a hierarchal body, really -- I'll tell you about it later if you'd like
[Matt Cruce] 9:36 pm: that would be great
[Josh Nelson] 9:36 pm: Though we better make sure it is clear we retain the rights to the SEDS name, etc
[Josh Nelson] 9:37 pm: Dont want a SEDS-China popping up and claiming copyright to the name, then charging us
[Megha Sharma] 9:37 pm: lol
[John Evans] 9:37 pm: Matt, any idea when those schools are sending checks, so that I can save on stamps?
[Matt Cruce] 9:38 pm: UT-Austin should be within in a week or two
[Matt Cruce] 9:39 pm: Carleton doesn't pay dues
[Matt Cruce] 9:39 pm: and UA-Tuscaloosa I am not sure on
[Matt Cruce] 9:39 pm: they are just in the process of starting from scratch
[John Evans] 9:39 pm: no dues?
[Kirk Kittell] 9:40 pm: (Carleton University is in Canada)
[Matt Cruce] 9:40 pm: they will be part of SEDS-Earth or SEDS-Canada
[John Evans] 9:40 pm: oh
[Matt Cruce] 9:40 pm: bummer i know...i thought we were rakin in the big bucks
[John Evans] 9:41 pm: sorry, I was watching the game
[Matt Cruce] 9:41 pm: .
[Matt Cruce] 9:42 pm: understandable
[Megha Sharma] 9:42 pm: Matt, u think u will need any help with expansion, or are u doing Ok so far?
[Matt Cruce] 9:42 pm: PLEASE send CONTACTS to ME!!!
[Matt Cruce] 9:42 pm: i accept any e-mail address
[Matt Cruce] 9:43 pm: just let me know the school and if they are a part of another organization (i.e. AIAA)
[Stephanie Jones] 9:43 pm: hahaha. that was a cry for help if i've ever seen one. I'll look into a couple places
[Matt Cruce] 9:44 pm: well we're making progress i just want to see it increase
[Stephanie Jones] 9:44 pm: but you're doing an awesome job, its easy to sit back and watch you work, haha
[Matt Cruce] 9:44 pm: that two weeks without internet didn't help things for me
[Megha Sharma] 9:44 pm: thats alrite.....u will have plenty of time
[Megha Sharma] 9:45 pm: may be u wanna start asking individual chapters to start doing some expansion in there vicinity
[Matt Cruce] 9:45 pm: thats all from me
[Matt Cruce] 9:45 pm: good idea
[Matt Cruce] 9:45 pm: !
[Megha Sharma] 9:45 pm: may be a chapter a sem. or something like that
[Matt Cruce] 9:46 pm: ok i'll see if i can work with Liz B and get into a CoC to push the idea
[Matt Cruce] 9:46 pm: thank you
[Megha Sharma] 9:47 pm: May be get together with Todd and introduce a new chapter award exclusively for expansion
[Lindsay Newton] 9:47 pm: ooh i like it!
[Megha Sharma] 9:47 pm: for SV 06 I mean
[Todd Romberger] 9:48 pm: cool idea
[Matt Cruce] 9:48 pm: GREAT!...i will do that
[Matt Cruce] 9:48 pm: todd we'll talk later
[Todd Romberger] 9:48 pm: ok sounds good
[Megha Sharma] 9:48 pm: ok if no questions for Matt, we'll move on to Liz
[Lindsay Newton] 9:49 pm: i guess there's no questions for matt...
[Lindsay Newton] 9:51 pm: just one quick thing from me - we're working on some new outreach presentation activities around here and if they work out well, we'd like to send it on to the other chapters as part of the "outreach package"
[Lindsay Newton] 9:51 pm: just so everyone else has ideas to work from as well
[Megha Sharma] 9:51 pm: great!
[Lindsay Newton] 9:52 pm: i'm done, unless anyone has questions or comments
[Megha Sharma] 9:52 pm: wat exactly do u have in mind to be included in this package
[Lindsay Newton] 9:54 pm: that was just the only phrase i could think of to explain it... this is just sort of a list and description of ideas that will be available to all the chapters for local outreach
[Megha Sharma] 9:56 pm: how about working on some basic, actual package ?
[Stephanie Jones] 9:56 pm: wasn't there some type of list of ideas on the website?
[Megha Sharma] 9:56 pm: with SEDS history, pics, videos, projects of chapters, etc?
[Stephanie Jones] 9:56 pm: where did it go?
[Lindsay Newton] 9:56 pm: kirk suggested using the wiki, so i'm going to put together a page for this and start from there
[Stephanie Jones] 9:56 pm: nice. i like the wiki.
[Lindsay Newton] 9:57 pm: me too :-P
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[Megha Sharma] 9:58 pm: repeating my question.....how about working on some basic, actual package with SEDS history, pics, videos, projects of chapters, etc?
[Stephanie Jones] 9:58 pm: for what? for sending to new schools?
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[Megha Sharma] 9:59 pm: yup
[Megha Sharma] 9:59 pm: and may be put the video on the website or something along those lines
[Lindsay Newton] 9:59 pm: that would have to be hugely collaborative, so we could have pics and videos from more than just a chapter or two
[Stephanie Jones] 9:59 pm: hmm. i think that could be a combined effort. If everyone could do a page about their area, i could compile it
[Lindsay Newton] 10:00 pm: i like that idea
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[Megha Sharma] 10:00 pm: yea, its definitely going to be a big project but very worthwhile
[Stephanie Jones] 10:00 pm: as in, if josh put together relevant and interesting project stuff, and liz educational ideas, and Matt the basics of how to start a chapter
[Stephanie Jones] 10:00 pm: i could do history, put it in a compact form...
[Stephanie Jones] 10:01 pm: yeah, it can be done with some effort
[Kirk Kittell] 10:01 pm: I know a way you could do that *cough* wiki *cough*
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[Lindsay Newton] 10:01 pm: haha... thanks, kirk
[Stephanie Jones] 10:01 pm: hahaha... indeed, but i agreed with Megha about the physically sending it
[Stephanie Jones] 10:02 pm: because wiki basically has all that yes?
[Megha Sharma] 10:02 pm: yep sort of
[Josh Nelson] 10:02 pm: Every chapter could definetly send in pictures and video
[Josh Nelson] 10:02 pm: that isnt too hard
[Josh Nelson] 10:02 pm: even with our activity level
[Kirk Kittell] 10:02 pm: wiki would just be a way to compile the info, and let the group edit the work
[Stephanie Jones] 10:03 pm: that would work excellently
[Megha Sharma] 10:04 pm: yea and put it on new.seds.org and so on
[Megha Sharma] 10:04 pm: can we start thinking/working on this?
[Megha Sharma] 10:04 pm: Ms Jones, so u wanna take charge?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:04 pm: yeah, i'm going to set up a wiki page now
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[Megha Sharma] 10:05 pm: alrite then, go to the wiki and start adding any cool/relevant info in there
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[Megha Sharma] 10:06 pm: Steph do u wanna send out an email to seds-chapters informing them too?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:06 pm: haha, wait up, i still need to set it up and email me with ways to improve/streamline the process, etc
[Stephanie Jones] 10:07 pm: stephanie.r.jones@gmail.com
[Stephanie Jones] 10:07 pm: and yeah, but i think i'll wait to dive into chapters... let the exec board have at it first and tell me what can be improved before i sic the chapters on it
[Megha Sharma] 10:07 pm: yup, ofcourse just suggesting steps in the process
[Stephanie Jones] 10:07 pm: sound alright?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:08 pm: cool! this is fun! i love wiki projects!
[Megha Sharma] 10:08 pm: can we add pics to the wiki?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:09 pm: wait a sec, what about the "chapter starter kit"
[Kirk Kittell] 10:09 pm: yes
[Stephanie Jones] 10:09 pm: isn't that a significant overlap?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:09 pm: or are we doing more of a less intense "this is what we do, we're fun, you should join us" type of thing
[Matt Cruce] 10:10 pm: the chapter starter kit can refer to this for ideas on what chapters do
[Matt Cruce] 10:10 pm: the chapter starter kit will focus on the setup and organization of a functional chapter
[Megha Sharma] 10:11 pm: well its time we repair the chapter-starter kit too, rite, Matt?
[Matt Cruce] 10:11 pm: but i missed the beginning of this convo cuz i got kicked out so tell me if i'm off here
[Megha Sharma] 10:11 pm: so this will be a helpful project for expansion too
[Matt Cruce] 10:11 pm: correct..the repair has begun
[Megha Sharma] 10:12 pm: awesome
[Megha Sharma] 10:13 pm: so steph do we put u in charge of this new project, sorta-kinda?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:13 pm: ok... wait Megha, I just got lost about what we're suggesting for this new project
[Stephanie Jones] 10:13 pm: because chapter-starter is very comprehensive
[Stephanie Jones] 10:14 pm: is this to send to prospective chapters, already interested chapters....?
[Megha Sharma] 10:14 pm: this is not a chapter starter kit, but as Matt said, he can refer to here for expansion
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[Stephanie Jones] 10:16 pm: ok, well since i have the talking stick I had something else to say briefly.
[Stephanie Jones] 10:16 pm: about continuity...
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[Megha Sharma] 10:16 pm: I'm sorry
[Stephanie Jones] 10:17 pm: i mean... what methods do we use to make sure the executive board from year to year knows what happened all the years before it?
[Megha Sharma] 10:17 pm: well this will be a package that has all the SEDS info----history, pics, projects, videos, etc
[Stephanie Jones] 10:18 pm: ok, right, sorry i changed the subject
[Stephanie Jones] 10:18 pm: yes... and the purpose of this package? just to inform chapters about us?
[Stephanie Jones] 10:18 pm: whats our target audience?
[Megha Sharma] 10:18 pm: so suppose a SEDS chapter goes to a high school telling them about SEDS, they can use this..may be a presentation
[Stephanie Jones] 10:19 pm: ooooooooooooooohhh
[Stephanie Jones] 10:19 pm: ok
[Stephanie Jones] 10:19 pm: i can set that up
[Megha Sharma] 10:19 pm: well just an idea that propped up in my mind rite now
[Kirk Kittell] 10:19 pm: just a concise history, a sort of almanac
[Megha Sharma] 10:19 pm: so any additions, corrections?
[Megha Sharma] 10:19 pm: most welcome
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[Lindsay Newton] 10:19 pm: sorry guys... lost internet
[Megha Sharma] 10:20 pm: may be when SEDS members go to the various conf., and if they get a chace to speak, this could be a tool
[Stephanie Jones] 10:20 pm: ok, definitely. so definitely a more of "this is what we do, have done, are working on" kind of thing
[Megha Sharma] 10:21 pm: yea, something along those lines
[Kirk Kittell] 10:22 pm: here's where I've been keeping some of the "have done" info: http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/SEDS_History
[Megha Sharma] 10:23 pm: so does this sound like working on something worth-while?...comments?
[Megha Sharma] 10:23 pm: or redundant?
[Matt Cruce] 10:23 pm: yes i think it is or worth taking something that semi-exists already to the next level
[Lindsay Newton] 10:24 pm: i agree
[Todd Romberger] 10:24 pm: yeah agreed
[Matt Cruce] 10:24 pm: its definitely different than the *cough* starter kit *cough*
[Ryan McLinko] 10:24 pm: it's definitely worth it (since prospective chapters probably don't want to read the chapter starter kit)
[Megha Sharma] 10:24 pm: exactly!!!!!
[Matt Cruce] 10:24 pm: that'll change eventually
[Stephanie Jones] 10:24 pm: heehee, good call ryan
[Stephanie Jones] 10:24 pm: ok, i'll work on that
[Matt Cruce] 10:25 pm: dang it...everyone doggin on the starter kit tonight
[Matt Cruce] 10:25 pm: not cool
[Matt Cruce] 10:25 pm: lol
[Megha Sharma] 10:25 pm: hah
[Megha Sharma] 10:25 pm: ok should we move on?
[Ryan McLinko] 10:25 pm: which is very useful, but in its own right
[Stephanie Jones] 10:25 pm: nooo, the starter kit is excellent
[Stephanie Jones] 10:26 pm: for the detail
[Stephanie Jones] 10:26 pm: but to get people hooked, you can't throw all that at them! neural overload
[Todd Romberger] 10:26 pm: yeah i say we move on
[Stephanie Jones] 10:26 pm: Sorry!
[Stephanie Jones] 10:26 pm: lets go
[Megha Sharma] 10:27 pm: jenni?
[Todd Romberger] 10:27 pm: no problem
[Jennifer Kissinger] 10:27 pm: Okay well really quick, Travel Fund meeting after this meeting.
[Megha Sharma] 10:27 pm: k
[Jennifer Kissinger] 10:27 pm: I have a list from Stephanie and myself, hopefully we'll be able to get some kind of alumni list
[Megha Sharma] 10:27 pm: is that it?
[Jennifer Kissinger] 10:27 pm: Of contacts that is, sorry
[Megha Sharma] 10:27 pm: Ryan?
[Ryan McLinko] 10:28 pm: so I'm assuming that everyone has had a chance to check out and give comments on new.seds.org by now
[Jennifer Kissinger] 10:28 pm: Yep
[Ryan McLinko] 10:28 pm: so if there aren't any objections, then I'd like to move it over to seds.org
[Ryan McLinko] 10:28 pm: I plan on checking with kirk, kevin, and chris after getting your approval
[Matt Cruce] 10:29 pm: i vote aye
[Lindsay Newton] 10:29 pm: i'm all for it
[Megha Sharma] 10:29 pm: just one quick suggestion...
[Ryan McLinko] 10:29 pm: sure
[Todd Romberger] 10:29 pm: yeah im a go for the website
[Megha Sharma] 10:30 pm: havbe all the email lists clearly laid out..because as it is rite now on seds.org, u really habe to dog to find those links to seds-announce, sedsexec, etc
[Megha Sharma] 10:30 pm: dig I mean
[Megha Sharma] 10:31 pm: other than that, yea I think we are good to move it
[Ryan McLinko] 10:31 pm: which links (besides seds-announce)
[Ryan McLinko] 10:32 pm: which is on the top banner
[Megha Sharma] 10:33 pm: sedsexec
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[Megha Sharma] 10:33 pm: is it somewhere there too?
[Ryan McLinko] 10:33 pm: like a mailto link to sedsexec?
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[Ryan McLinko] 10:34 pm: that isn't there that I know of
[Megha Sharma] 10:34 pm: alrite..I think I am confused
[Megha Sharma] 10:35 pm: lemme back off
[Megha Sharma] 10:35 pm: the admn has to add ppl to the exec list, rite?
[Ryan McLinko] 10:35 pm: I'll talk to you about it after
[Megha Sharma] 10:35 pm: ok
[Megha Sharma] 10:35 pm: cool
[Megha Sharma] 10:35 pm: Todd, u wanna go now?
[Todd Romberger] 10:36 pm: sure..
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[Todd Romberger] 10:36 pm: I got a call from UT Austin who are trying to start a chapter, they needed a letter for their student government saying that SEDS-USA officially recognizes them as starting a chapter, I didn’t know if something like that exists so I just wrote one and sent it, and gave their contact info to Matt.
[Todd Romberger] 10:36 pm: As for conferences/events, no new responses since last week. I’ll send something out this weekend listing the responses, so maybe that will give people a boost to respond.
[Todd Romberger] 10:36 pm: Also any money we can gather via the fundraising committee to be used for non-SpaceVision travel will give a boost as well.
[Matt Cruce] 10:36 pm: .
[Todd Romberger] 10:36 pm: thats about it
[Todd Romberger] 10:37 pm: any questions/comments?
[Megha Sharma] 10:39 pm: none from here
[Megha Sharma] 10:40 pm: silence means..keep going
[Todd Romberger] 10:40 pm: im done
[Megha Sharma] 10:40 pm: if todd is done...the meeting's officially over
[Matt Cruce] 10:40 pm: woohoo!!!
[John Evans] 10:41 pm: Sorry I have a question
[Megha Sharma] 10:41 pm: sure
[Matt Cruce] 10:41 pm: doh
[John Evans] 10:41 pm: I see that U of Wisconsin is listed as an active chapter...
[John Evans] 10:41 pm: but we have not received dues from them...?
[Matt Cruce] 10:41 pm: i noticed that too
[John Evans] 10:42 pm: anybody know about this?
[Matt Cruce] 10:42 pm: i'm gonna talk to Miss Bozek about that and see if the chapter is dormant or if we just need to get on this
[Matt Cruce] 10:42 pm: about paying dues
[John Evans] 10:42 pm: OK
[Matt Cruce] 10:42 pm: i'll investigate
[John Evans] 10:42 pm: go get them Tiger
[Matt Cruce] 10:42 pm: unless someone else knows for sure

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