2007 July 10 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript
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| SEDS-USA Executive Board Meeting, July 10, 2007 |
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Time: 8:00pm EST |
[18:00] Gerard Salyut: Evening all [18:01] Eleven Vella: hello [18:02] RolandBolser Voom: howdy [18:03] BTYoung Yifu: this is acting particularly slow for me to day, so forigive me if it takes a while to answer [18:04] Gerard Salyut: yeah [18:04] Gerard Salyut: same [18:04] Gerard Salyut: I think they are going to update tommorow or something [18:05] Gerard Salyut: *sighs* [18:05] Gerard Salyut: stupid Las Cruces [18:05] Gerard Salyut: they dont use fandango here [18:05] Gerard Salyut: so couldnt get midnight Potter tickets :-( [18:05] BTYoung Yifu: is that this week? i must be out of it [18:05] Gerard Salyut: its tonight [18:05] RolandBolser Voom: is what this week? [18:05] Gerard Salyut: Potter boy [18:07] Eleven Vella: ok we are just waiting for ryan b/c he had something important to start with [18:07] BTYoung Yifu: i think optimus prime could beat potter easily [18:07] Gerard Salyut: lol [18:08] Gerard Salyut: how was Transformers? good? [18:08] BTYoung Yifu: excellent [18:08] BTYoung Yifu: and im not particularly impressed by graphics in general [18:08] RolandBolser Voom: okay so does someone have a speaking tool that I cannot pick up on? [18:09] Gerard Salyut: ? [18:10] Ryanblah Qinan is Online [18:11] Eleven Vella: ok it looks like everyone who is coming is here [18:12] Eleven Vella: lets get started [18:12] Eleven Vella: Ryan, can you go first, because I know it is important? [18:12] Ryanblah Qinan: sure [18:12] Ryanblah Qinan: so this was to do with the endowment fund [18:13] Ryanblah Qinan: is anyone not familiar with what the endowment fund is [18:13] Gerard Salyut: I'm familiar with what it is supposed to be [18:13] danderson Beck: Me, although I would guess its money given to us by former seds members [18:13] Ryanblah Qinan: right [18:13] Gerard Salyut: but it hasnt really done anything lately [18:13] Ryanblah Qinan: so basically, the general idea is to have a large fund of money [18:13] Ryanblah Qinan: in a mutial fund or something like that [18:14] Ryanblah Qinan: and we run seds-usa expenses off of the interest [18:14] Ryanblah Qinan: so, basically, this is an idea that has been around for a while [18:14] Ryanblah Qinan: but nothing has really been done about it [18:14] Ryanblah Qinan: and we have decided to go ahead and have a luncheon for it at the conference on sunda [18:15] Ryanblah Qinan: and peter is going to speak there [18:15] Ryanblah Qinan: btw, http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/SEDS-USA_Endowment_Fund. [18:15] Ryanblah Qinan: so basically, the key people to hit up are the alumni [18:15] Ryanblah Qinan: so peter and kirk have both suggested to try to get as many alums as possible to come to the conf [18:16] Ryanblah Qinan: so I guess I have 2 main questions [18:16] Ryanblah Qinan: 1.) do you guys have ideas of other groups/people that might be good to milk for money for this [18:16] Ryanblah Qinan: (both as 1 timers at the beginning and as yearly donors) [18:16] Ryanblah Qinan: 2.) ideas on getting alums to the conference [18:16] danderson Beck: Paul Alan [18:17] danderson Beck: he paid for SS1 right? [18:17] Gerard Salyut: the main problem with funds like this is we need to get a heck of alot of money before its worthwhile [18:17] Ryanblah Qinan: right [18:17] Gerard Salyut: 5 cents a month wont really cover any costs [18:17] Gerard Salyut: so we'd need to have quite a bit, say thousads or tens of thousands in there before it started to actually generate a usuable amount of interest [18:17] Ryanblah Qinan: it's estimated that we need about $100k [18:18] Eleven Vella: wow [18:18] danderson Beck: And what is the confernce for again? [18:18] Gerard Salyut: if we can fundraise 100k, why not use it directly towards expenses? [18:18] Gerard Salyut: how much interest would 100k generate? [18:19] Ryanblah Qinan: supposedly enough that we will have enough to deal with expenses for a long time to come [18:19] Ryanblah Qinan: basically so that we don't have to constantly worry about fundraising [18:19] Ryanblah Qinan: danderson, what was your ? [18:20] danderson Beck: nvrn [18:20] Ryanblah Qinan: k [18:20] Eleven Vella: who suggested that number (100k)? [18:20] Ryanblah Qinan: peter I think [18:20] Ryanblah Qinan: so that's probably more ambitious than necessary [18:20] danderson Beck: do the alums at least know about it? [18:21] Ryanblah Qinan: probably not widely [18:21] Ryanblah Qinan: which is what we would like to fix [18:21] Ryanblah Qinan: and this was one way to try to increase visibility [18:21] Ryanblah Qinan: we just need to make sure that we know exactly what we will be spending the money on [18:21] Ryanblah Qinan: and exactly how much we want to get [18:22] Ryanblah Qinan: and those are the kinds of things we talk about at the luncheon [18:22] Ryanblah Qinan: (so the luncheon is kind of a kickoff for the whole thing) [18:22] Gerard Salyut: if we get non-profits we should invite companies as well [18:22] Gerard Salyut: non-profit status [18:23] Eleven Vella: yes, companies [18:23] Ryanblah Qinan: so another thing that we will need to generate is a list of items that we'd like to spend money on a yearly basis [18:23] Ryanblah Qinan: so that we can get an idea of what kind of money we need to sustain [18:24] Eleven Vella: well we need money for the competitons we wanted to plan [18:24] Eleven Vella: ex. that rocket one [18:24] Ryanblah Qinan: so for that front, if everyone can send me a list of things you think would be good for your department to have [18:24] Ryanblah Qinan: *ok that didn't come out well [18:24] Ryanblah Qinan: yearly expenses that you think would be good for your department [18:24] Ryanblah Qinan: then I can compile a list and send that out [18:25] Ryanblah Qinan: and popel can check over each other departments to see if there are any ideas cross-department [18:25] Gerard Salyut: k [18:25] Gerard Salyut: send an e-mail reminder out to the listserv tonight, would you? [18:25] Ryanblah Qinan: yep [18:25] Eleven Vella: cool [18:25] Ryanblah Qinan: and see if I get John to get us an estimate on how much money we need to raise [18:26] Ryanblah Qinan: based on the yearly amoutn we want [18:26] Ryanblah Qinan: does anyone have any other responses ro 1) or 2) [18:26] Ryanblah Qinan: otherwise, I'll throw those into the email too [18:26] Ryanblah Qinan: so you gus can think about it [18:27] Eleven Vella: well i have one idea [18:27] Ryanblah Qinan: k [18:27] Eleven Vella: and this ties in with the fundraising thing i was going to talk about [18:27] Eleven Vella: one really successful organization at illinois put together company sponsorship packages [18:28] Gerard Salyut: yeah [18:28] Eleven Vella: like, for 500 they can have theri name on our website, access to a resume database and we'll put theirn name on our poster at conferecne [18:28] Eleven Vella: *conferences [18:28] Ryanblah Qinan: could we get a copy of one of those as an example [18:28] Eleven Vella: the guy iwas talking to said companies will easily pay 500 dollars for this [18:29] Eleven Vella: they can afford to [18:29] Gerard Salyut: but for something like that to work, we need to have mandatory member databases and such [18:29] Eleven Vella: well that was just an idea - there could be other incentives we can offer [18:29] Ryanblah Qinan: what do you mean by mandatory member datbase [18:29] Eleven Vella: the point is, 500 is nothing to big companies [18:30] Eleven Vella: i am going to send you guys a pdf of their sponsorship borchure [18:30] Eleven Vella: *brochure [18:30] Eleven Vella: i think it would be easy to adapt it to SEDS in our case [18:31] Eleven Vella: i was going to suggest that External Affairs try to come up with possible package and designs for a brochure [18:31] Ryanblah Qinan: generally, most sponsorship brochurse are very similar [18:31] Gerard Salyut: things like those resume databases, etc, are only usually a good appeal if it is mandatory for our members [18:31] danderson Beck: sure [18:31] Gerard Salyut: if only 4-10 people put resumes in, not very appealing [18:31] Eleven Vella: true, but i dont think this club has more than 30 members either [18:31] Eleven Vella: and its only a local group [18:32] Eleven Vella: danderson, would you be up to at least looking into it? [18:32] Eleven Vella: and i would help, of course [18:32] danderson Beck: sure [18:32] Eleven Vella: ok [18:32] Eleven Vella: we'll think of some other incentives [18:33] Eleven Vella: ok that was my idea [18:33] Eleven Vella: ok back to ryan [18:34] Ryanblah Qinan: k, so does anyone else have responses [18:35] Ryanblah Qinan: if not, then there was actually one other thing that I was going to mention [18:35] Ryanblah Qinan: I'm finally going to populate the seds-members list [18:36] Ryanblah Qinan: whuich has been purged [18:36] Ryanblah Qinan: so I'm going to emial seds-announce and seds-discuss asking current students to sign up if they want to be on it [18:36] Ryanblah Qinan: purpose of it being things like internship offers, etc [18:36] Ryanblah Qinan: so, just an fyi [18:36] Ryanblah Qinan: i am done [18:37] Eleven Vella: ok [18:37] Eleven Vella: awesome [18:37] Eleven Vella: i have 2 quick things to mention [18:38] Eleven Vella: Jim Muncy is willing to donate $500 for a Jounralist award [18:38] Eleven Vella: do we have enough people in SEDS who could be nominated for such an award? [18:39] Eleven Vella: i think of 1 person who put a lot of effort into the research paper [18:39] Eleven Vella: but i mean, is this realsitic? [18:39] Darrell Abel is Online [18:39] Gerard Salyut: we kinda should announce it ahead of time [18:39] Gerard Salyut: not just randomly out of the blue award money to someone [18:40] Ryanblah Qinan: what we can do [18:40] BTYoung Yifu is Offline [18:40] Ryanblah Qinan: is have some basic awards for this year [18:40] danderson Beck: Maybe it would be a good idea to ask chapter affairs? [18:40] Ryanblah Qinan: and announce new ones when hading these out [18:40] danderson Beck: they contact the local heads [18:40] Ryanblah Qinan: for the upcoming year [18:40] Ryanblah Qinan: would give people more time to work for them [18:40] Gerard Salyut: $500 is alot of money to randomly plop in one person's lap randomly [18:40] Gerard Salyut: yeah [18:40] Eleven Vella: exactly [18:41] Gerard Salyut: for an organization with no money, we should build up to them [18:41] Darrell Abel is Offline [18:41] BTYoung Yifu is Online [18:41] Eleven Vella: well, using Ryan's idea would buy us a year [18:41] Flight Band: All Go [18:42] Gerard Salyut: yeah would make alot more sense to announce it at the conference [18:42] Gerard Salyut: as a formal award for next year [18:42] Eleven Vella: I 'll check with Jim and see how he feels about delaying it [18:42] Gerard Salyut: so there is more incentive for people to contribute [18:42] Gerard Salyut: k [18:42] Eleven Vella: yes [18:42] Gerard Salyut: or we could announce soon and award at conference [18:43] Gerard Salyut: I just dont feel declaring right here and now that we want to throw this money away is very good idea [18:43] BTYoung Yifu is Offline [18:43] Gerard Salyut: build up some anticipation or something [18:43] Eleven Vella: yes, and it would be awfully difficult for someone to get something published by november [18:44] BTYoung Yifu is Online [18:44] Eleven Vella: ok thanks for suggestions [18:44] Eleven Vella: i think waiting a year is the smart choice (and announcing it at the conference) [18:45] Eleven Vella: Ok the other thing was James Pura emailed me looking for a SEDS member to share a hotel at the conference with [18:45] Eleven Vella: is someone going to try to coordinate rooms for the conference? [18:45] Gerard Salyut: ((Brian gives up trying to stay logged in... he's having troubles)) [18:46] BTYoung Yifu is Offline [18:46] Ryanblah Qinan: btw, we have found some cheaper hotels that we are going to email out shortly [18:46] Ryanblah Qinan: with a reminder email about the conference [18:46] Ryanblah Qinan: (as we are approaching good time for booking) [18:47] RolandBolser Voom: as far as I know I will also be able to house two or three people as well [18:47] Eleven Vella: Ok, can I direct James to you , Jake? [18:48] RolandBolser Voom: Could you tell me who he is? SL disconnected me there for a while [18:48] Eleven Vella: James Pura was at ISDC [18:48] RolandBolser Voom: ah yes [18:48] Eleven Vella: that blonde guy from california [18:48] RolandBolser Voom: sure [18:48] RolandBolser Voom: he seems like a good guy [18:48] Eleven Vella: ok good [18:49] Eleven Vella: That was all I had [18:49] Eleven Vella: Does anyone else have an update for us? [18:49] Gerard Salyut: just brief few things [18:49] RolandBolser Voom: I have a small request [18:50] RolandBolser Voom: Those of you who went ot ISDC may remember a private talk we had with some people about using open source software for multiple purposes [18:50] RolandBolser Voom: I'm trying to help Paul Wooster with his DevelopSpace project [18:51] Darrell Abel is Online [18:51] RolandBolser Voom: basically the site is going to be used for A) a community buidling tool for the space community and B) a resource for project building [18:51] RolandBolser Voom: noiw I'm a little younger than most of you and haven't worked on as many projects [18:52] RolandBolser Voom: so if you could take a minute to take a look at the site and tell me what you think we could add to help it in these respects, that would be real helpful [18:52] RolandBolser Voom: furthermore, trying to use it to coordinate a greater network of people as well as organize information furthers our goals as SEDS [18:52] RolandBolser Voom: fin [18:53] RolandBolser Voom: (that's developspace.net, copyright MMVII) [18:53] Eleven Vella: ok [18:54] Eleven Vella: Jah do you want to go? [18:54] Eleven Vella: *josh [18:54] Eleven Vella: sorry about that [18:55] Gerard Salyut: Brief project updates [18:55] Gerard Salyut: Ok, so the 'official' lines of communication with White Sands lead no where, so I'm now pursuing non-official lines, going behind the scenes. [18:55] Gerard Salyut: Also looking at various cattle ranches and seeing if they will let us launch there [18:55] Gerard Salyut: And I'm still waiting for details on that art prize from you Liz so I can announce the changes to the competition formally [18:56] Eleven Vella: what kind of details did you need again? [18:56] Gerard Salyut: what is the offer, what exactly is being offered, who is offering it, how we obtain it, etc... [18:56] Gerard Salyut: any strings.. [18:56] Gerard Salyut: etc etc etc [18:57] Eleven Vella: oh ok [18:57] Eleven Vella: I can email that to you [18:57] Gerard Salyut: yup [18:57] Gerard Salyut: :-) [18:57] Gerard Salyut: sooner the better so I can announce it / change the rules / webpage [18:58] Eleven Vella: ok [18:58] Gerard Salyut: I'm also, with your guys permission, looking to pursue SEDS member rates at various magazines [18:59] Gerard Salyut: and try to arrange free printing with some of the big aerospace firms [18:59] Gerard Salyut: aparently they all have their own printing departments [18:59] Gerard Salyut: since they run so much classified stuff [18:59] Gerard Salyut: it cant be outsourced [18:59] Gerard Salyut: so they have their own printing departments that might be willing to donate their services [18:59] Gerard Salyut: might be able to get stuff printed for free for the conference, etc.. [19:00] Gerard Salyut: Do you all think those are good ideas / do I have the go-ahead? [19:00] Eleven Vella: i think it is worth pursuing [19:00] Eleven Vella: anyone else? [19:00] Darrell Abel: I agree [19:01] Gerard Salyut: and everyone else is on cloud 9.. [19:01] Darrell Abel: lol [19:01] Eleven Vella: lol [19:01] Darrell Abel: figured as much [19:01] Gerard Salyut: getting blown up by a cylon nuke [19:01] danderson Beck: huh? [19:01] Eleven Vella: haha exactly [19:01] danderson Beck: yeah the printing is a good idea [19:01] Darrell Abel: my perspective point is on a cloud [19:01] Darrell Abel: does that count? [19:02] Gerard Salyut: lol [19:02] Darrell Abel: anyways...to continue [19:02] Gerard Salyut: well I'll take this as an affirmative [19:02] Gerard Salyut: thats all for me [19:02] Gerard Salyut goes back into his shell [19:02] Eleven Vella: haha alright [19:02] Eleven Vella: any other announcememtns for this meeting? [19:03] Gerard Salyut: oh, [19:03] Gerard Salyut: yeah [19:03] Gerard Salyut: we need to decide what we want to present for the conference on the 19th [19:03] Darrell Abel: was the SL item for July 19th discussed? [19:03] Gerard Salyut: Darrell stop reading my mind [19:03] Gerard Salyut: :-) [19:03] Darrell Abel: sorry [19:03] Eleven Vella: Oh right [19:03] Gerard Salyut: So we need to decide what we want to do with our panel or presentation [19:04] Gerard Salyut: You guys willing to talk about it now, or should we schedule an additional meeting? [19:04] Darrell Abel: what guidelines did they give us? [19:04] Gerard Salyut: I think Liz, Darrell, and I were the only ones interested [19:04] Gerard Salyut: right? [19:04] Darrell Abel: There's no reason to keep everyone here [19:04] Darrell Abel: if everyone is free we could do this after the meeting [19:04] Darrell Abel: "offline" as it is [19:04] Eleven Vella: well, who can actually attend for sure? [19:05] Eleven Vella: (on the 19th) [19:05] Darrell Abel: I'm sure I can make time for it [19:05] Darrell Abel: I'm officially workin on a SEDS project during the day [19:05] Darrell Abel: so there's no such thing as me taking "time off" from work [19:05] Darrell Abel: wish that arguement could extend to NewSpace though [19:06] Eleven Vella: Ok, lets just discuss it after the meeting "offline" [19:06] Eleven Vella: Does anyone have anything else for this meeting? [19:06] Darrell Abel: ;) [19:06] danderson Beck: hey liz, please send those questions for the interview. thanks [19:06] Darrell Abel: oh [19:06] Darrell Abel: We were There [19:07] Eleven Vella: sure [19:07] Gerard Salyut: k [19:07] danderson Beck: thanks [19:07] Darrell Abel: I heard rumors that someone in AIAA was doing something similar six months back [19:07] Eleven Vella: ok [19:07] Eleven Vella: if there is nothing else then the meeting is over [19:07] Eleven Vella: those who want to discuss the panel, stay here i guess [19:07] Darrell Abel: from someone that "was there"...in both senses of the word [19:08] Eleven Vella: Ok... [19:08] Darrell Abel: I'll brb [19:09] Darrell Abel: want to try something [19:09] Eleven Vella: is now a good time to talk about the panel or should we schedule aother meeting [19:09] Darrell Abel: now's fine for me [19:09] Gerard Salyut: fine for me [19:09] Darrell Abel: I just want to see if I can add something [19:09] Darrell Abel is Offline [19:09] Gerard Salyut: though actually.... I need dinner..... [19:09] Gerard Salyut: hmmm [19:09] Gerard Salyut: hard choice [19:10] Gerard Salyut: wait for D to get back on [19:10] Eleven Vella: k [19:11] Eleven Vella: darrell says he cant get back in for 5 minutes [19:11] Eleven Vella: perhaps a better iea would be to reschedule? [19:11] Eleven Vella: i think people are tire anyway [19:11] Eleven Vella: *tired [19:12] Gerard Salyut: k [19:12] Gerard Salyut: I'll send out an e-mail [19:12] Gerard Salyut: brainstorm ideas in the meantime [19:12] Eleven Vella: ok great [19:12] Gerard Salyut: virtual worlds [19:12] Gerard Salyut: and their usefulness to buisness, space exploration, etc.. [19:13] Gerard Salyut: where we see them going [19:14] danderson Beck: Cya all [19:14] Eleven Vella: ok bye [19:14] Eleven Vella is Offline
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