2007 July 24 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript
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| SEDS-USA Executive Board Meeting, July 24, 2007 |
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Time: 8:00pm EST |
[18:09] BTYoung Yifu is Online [18:09] Eleven Vella: so I'll ask Ryan when and where he should send it [18:10] Eleven Vella: Ok [18:10] Eleven Vella: Jake and Brian do you want to talk about Newspace [18:10] RolandBolser Voom: sure [18:10] RolandBolser Voom: Okay first thing is [18:10] RolandBolser Voom: at newspace I did some work for Will WAtson, the guy who threw the party at ISDC [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: I asked if he would host our after after party [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: he said yes [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: I checked it out with Ryan and Darrell [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: it's all cool [18:11] Eleven Vella: great [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: so we have an after after party [18:11] BTYoung Yifu: hes good at parties too [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: Now on to the real stuff [18:11] RolandBolser Voom: You want to go first, Brian? [18:12] BTYoung Yifu: well, a couple of contacts first of all [18:12] BTYoung Yifu: I spoke to a representative of the Teachers in Space program [18:13] BTYoung Yifu: and... this is still not public knowledge.... but they're looking at announcing a program at XPC [18:13] BTYoung Yifu: sponsoring teachers for SS2 flights, or possibly zero-g [18:14] BTYoung Yifu: and they may be interested in seeing if we're available to help relesease some press releases and such since we're so distributed, and they'll all be in las cruces at the time [18:14] BTYoung Yifu: i expect I'll hear from them in the near future [18:16] BTYoung Yifu: and a few other contacts, but nothing generating any action items [18:16] BTYoung Yifu: jake [18:16] Gerard Salyut: though note if you're an XPC volunteer you cant distribute those at the Cup for them [18:16] BTYoung Yifu: of course, itll be something well need to work with the chapters on [18:17] RolandBolser Voom: also we hung out with AManda heaton and proved that it is a fact taht if you throw a girl out into the middle of the room iat a space conference , someone will come talk to her immediately [18:17] RolandBolser Voom: and tried to convince her to come to the MIT conference [18:18] RolandBolser Voom: now brian and I were sitting at teh last panel of the conference, with Loretta chairing the Born After Apollo crew [18:18] RolandBolser Voom: and Will Pomerantz said something that tome clarified everything that was wrong with the current 20 something generaton of thinking about space [18:19] RolandBolser Voom: he said that the way people thought about the future of space travel was the same as it was right after the space race [18:19] RolandBolser Voom: (approximately) [18:20] BTYoung Yifu: basically the idea that we're doing space because its cool, and that if we keep trying we'll get to pan-am to orbit soon [18:20] RolandBolser Voom: which to me, and Brian too, said that these guys were still stuck in the Heinlein mythos [18:20] RolandBolser Voom: and that didn't resonate well with us at all [18:21] Gerard Salyut: Just take all opinions as a grain of salt [18:21] Eleven Vella: yeah [18:21] Gerard Salyut: just because someone is a conference speaker doesnt mean they are right [18:21] RolandBolser Voom: so we think it should be our job to train people coming up in space to be practical, to be the voice of the new REason [18:22] BTYoung Yifu: or at least define a direction that we feel is correct, and what that means to us, as opposed to those 5,10, 20 years older [18:23] RolandBolser Voom: itthese guys are so far in the future that they havebn't developed any infrastructure [18:23] RolandBolser Voom: whcih means that our generation has to step up and do it [18:24] Gerard Salyut: could we get back on track with conference proceedings and happenings? [18:24] RolandBolser Voom: so we were hoping to take SEDS in a more practical direction, whree we make it clear that we aren't all Rutans, that there is more than one way into the space industry, and that the future is built upon what we already have not what we want [18:25] Eleven Vella: well, how would we do that? I mean, do you have any ideas right now? [18:25] Gerard Salyut: And just a reminder, make sure to specify those as your opinions [18:25] Gerard Salyut: not SEDS as an organization [18:25] Gerard Salyut: alot of people dont share those opinions, and we dont want to turn them off from helping SEDS from what they hear a member say [18:26] BTYoung Yifu: i wrote up my personal take on it, and i think it would just be good to encourage people to consider who we are [18:26] BTYoung Yifu: http://69.243.30.205:81/files/hda1/Return%20to%20Flight%20generation.pdf [18:26] BTYoung Yifu: basically somehow create a dialogue about who we are [18:26] BTYoung Yifu: like josh said not necessarily make it an official position [18:27] RolandBolser Voom: Josh, could you type what you are saying? I would like to hear you opinions on this [18:28] BTYoung Yifu: maybe a section on the wiki with a talk about who we are theme [18:28] Gerard Salyut: I'm just clarifying that its great you guys are inspired and have a take on what happened at the conference [18:28] Gerard Salyut: but these are your opinions [18:28] Gerard Salyut: make sure to state them as such [18:28] Gerard Salyut: not as the opinions of SEDS as an organization [18:29] RolandBolser Voom: also, I would like to propose a (Future) group of people to help wstudents who plan to focus heavily on the engineering aspect and anther to help students who plan to focus heavily on the business aspect [18:29] RolandBolser Voom: a committee on the progression of undergraduate engineering and entreprenuership [18:30] Eleven Vella: spacevision would be a good place to get interest for something like that [18:30] BTYoung Yifu: i agree [18:30] Gerard Salyut: dividing SEDS into different organizations will only dillute any effectiveness we have [18:30] RolandBolser Voom: yes [18:30] Gerard Salyut: and since chapters already concentrate on their members interest areas [18:31] Gerard Salyut: I dont really see the point in such sub divisions [18:31] RolandBolser Voom: this is all things that we think should be thought about before Space Vision so we can come out with a collective message [18:31] RolandBolser Voom: which pbrings me to another point [18:32] RolandBolser Voom: I was talking to darrell about this today [18:32] RolandBolser Voom: there have come a number of students in teh exec board and elsewhere in seds who really love seds, believe in it, and work for it real hard [18:33] RolandBolser Voom: and these people show up at conferences all the time and help us out in theese situations [18:33] RolandBolser Voom: at ISDC we roped ben cornbin in nicely and I think we can expect to see a lot of him in SEDS for a while [18:34] RolandBolser Voom: is there anyone else that you guys know that we definitely want to get close to at Space Vision so I can start harassing them now? [18:34] Gerard Salyut: never harass them [18:34] Gerard Salyut: lol [18:34] Gerard Salyut: you're making them spend money :-P [18:34] Gerard Salyut: best method [18:34] Eleven Vella: yeah, we want to maintain good relations with all of these people that help us [18:34] Gerard Salyut: is to get chapters to help front the cost of their attendance once [18:34] Gerard Salyut: once you get one of these interested students to go to a conference once [18:35] Gerard Salyut: they'll start paying for the rest out of their own pocket [18:35] Gerard Salyut: example: UA-SEDS. We got funding once, and now we have 5 people wanting to go this coming year [18:35] Gerard Salyut: pestering individual people is ineffective [18:35] Gerard Salyut: convince the chapter leadership to bring multiple people frm their chapter and fund the trip [18:36] Gerard Salyut: / end rant [18:36] BTYoung Yifu: i think the other thing though is that once they're there, its important to go out of our way to get them involved so they dont just hang out with their own people [18:36] Gerard Salyut: agreed [18:36] Gerard Salyut: thats why the socials and such are important [18:37] Gerard Salyut: heck, alot of UA-SEDS sat together in a cluster. there needs to be a more uniform attempt to integrate people when they do show up [18:37] Gerard Salyut: instead of just talking to people you know [18:37] BTYoung Yifu: definitely, i just think of ben corbin and m amanda heaton, i think they;ll be very involved in the future [18:38] Gerard Salyut: ok [18:38] Gerard Salyut: so we've got them [18:38] RolandBolser Voom: so that said, is there anyone who has shown stand out qualities that you guys would really like to have wroking for SEDS? [18:38] RolandBolser Voom: think about it and let me know [18:38] Gerard Salyut: Could we steer this back to the conference summary? [18:39] Eleven Vella: was there anything else we should know about? [18:39] BTYoung Yifu: it was very business oriented, and i would definitely recommend it to anyone interested in that side of the industry for next year [18:39] BTYoung Yifu: the volunteering is a great deal [18:39] Eleven Vella: cool [18:40] RolandBolser Voom: I sold the name Students for the Exploration and Development of Space to SHubber ALi [18:40] BTYoung Yifu: thats all i have to say [18:40] Eleven Vella: ok [18:41] Eleven Vella: Ryan had a few things that he emailed to me: [18:41] Eleven Vella: his goal for the endowment fund is 4-10k [18:42] Eleven Vella: which means raising 60-100k like Peter originally mentioned [18:42] Eleven Vella: he plans on contacting JOhn for help with writing a formal proposal [18:42] Eleven Vella: If you have any last minute budget items, send them to him [18:43] Eleven Vella: Ok then next thing: [18:44] Eleven Vella: AAS has given SEDS printing privliges [18:45] Eleven Vella: and Ryan would like suggestions as to where to post flyers for the conference [18:45] Eleven Vella: he will organize the material for the conference (to be printed) but that you should let him know if you want to help [18:45] Gerard Salyut: would suggest sending them out to all of the major engineering departments in the northeast [18:45] Gerard Salyut: we wont get completly new people to travel far just because of a flier [18:45] Eleven Vella: I was thinking to have them get there no later than september [18:46] Eleven Vella: yes [18:46] Gerard Salyut: but there are a ton of high level colleges in Mass, NY, CT, and RI that would definetly come [18:46] Gerard Salyut: since its only about a 3-4 hour drive [18:46] Eleven Vella: good idea [18:46] Gerard Salyut: would suggest concentrating there [18:47] Eleven Vella: school further away might need more than just a flyer [18:47] Gerard Salyut: sending fliers to teh Engineering, Astronomy, and Physics departments [18:47] Gerard Salyut: yeah, schools farther away it tends to take someone convincing them in person [18:47] Eleven Vella: ok good [18:47] Eleven Vella: anyone else? [18:48] Gerard Salyut: No word yet from any of the possible sites for the Keg competition [18:48] Eleven Vella: He also wants us to note some of the new upcoming conferences:\ [18:48] Gerard Salyut: We should advertise soon the deadlines and requirements for groups interested in hosting hte National Conference [18:49] Gerard Salyut: So we dont run into any problems of people not knowing it is voted on and decided at this years conference [18:49] Eleven Vella: That is a good point [18:49] Eleven Vella: we do that elections, right? [18:49] Gerard Salyut: CoC usually [18:50] Gerard Salyut: least thats when we have intended to have it [18:50] Gerard Salyut: but recent history its been messed up [18:50] Gerard Salyut: Illinois conference for example UCF wasnt ready so they requested an extension [18:50] Eleven Vella: ok [18:50] Eleven Vella: right [18:50] Gerard Salyut: UCF conference it was whoever wants it [18:51] Gerard Salyut: so if we announce now and make it clear to all chapters, then have the vote during CoC [18:51] Eleven Vella: yeah [18:51] Eleven Vella: it is always better to deicde on things early on anyway [18:52] Eleven Vella: Ok, Ryan's last thing was that he updated the webpage again [18:52] Eleven Vella: and to give him any other suggestions you might have [18:52] Gerard Salyut: k [18:52] Eleven Vella: Carissa, can you do me a favor and email the transcript to Ryan? [18:52] You: yes [18:52] Eleven Vella: I want to make sure he gets it [18:52] Eleven Vella: thanks [18:53] Eleven Vella: Any other annoucements for this meeting? [18:54] You: I will be leaving on Monday for France and will be there for the semester [18:54] Gerard Salyut: Carissa, do you have transcript? Or do you need me to copy it for ya? [18:55] You: since it will be 3am there when it is 8pm (central) here, then I will need someone to save the transcript for me and e-mail it to me so I can post it [18:55] You: no, i have the transcript [18:55] Gerard Salyut: Going to start a SEDS France? [18:55] Gerard Salyut: (I'm sure we can remember to do that) [18:55] Eleven Vella: yes [18:56] You: i might...is there one or is there just a SEDS Canada? [18:56] Gerard Salyut: no SEDS France that I know of [18:56] Gerard Salyut: SEDS Spain [18:56] Gerard Salyut: SEDS UK [18:56] Gerard Salyut: are the two closest [18:56] You: ok [18:56] You: well...that's all i have [18:56] Eleven Vella: alright cool [18:56] Gerard Salyut: Have a good time in France [18:56] Gerard Salyut: make sure to take lots of photos [18:56] You: thanks [18:57] You: i will [18:57] Eleven Vella: last announcements? [18:57] Eleven Vella: Ok, see you all next week!
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