2007 September 18 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript

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SEDS-USA Executive Board Meeting, September 18, 2007

Time: 8:00pm EST
Location: Second Life
Attendance: Liz Bozek, Daniel Anderson, Joshua Nelson, Ryan McLinko, Brian Young


[17:58]  danderson Beck: Hi
[17:58]  You: we'll wait a bit for others
[18:06]  You: alright i am going to go poke ppl online
[18:07]  Gerard Salyut: k
[18:07]  You: OK well the two things wwe need to discuss today are 1. possible scrapping of the art prize and 2. the rocket competition rules
[18:07]  Gerard Salyut: yay
[18:08]  Gerard Salyut: a Josh meeting eh?
[18:08]  Gerard Salyut: (sorry bout not making last meeting)
[18:08]  You: both have to do with Special Projects
[18:08]  You: so Josh, whenever you would like to begin w/ either topic go ahead
[18:08]  You: (ryan is on his way)
[18:08]  Gerard Salyut: ok
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: Art project: As of right now, about 10 days before the deadline, we only have 4 submissions to the art project
[18:09]  Ryanblah Qinan is Online
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: at least 1 of which is plagerized
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: Someone literally took a Cassini photo and submitted it as their own artwork
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: lol
[18:09]  Ryanblah Qinan: sry am late, meeting ran over
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: np Ryan
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: least you showed
[18:09]  Ryanblah Qinan: oh wow, where is everyone
[18:09]  Gerard Salyut: And the other 3 submissions arent of any quality
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: So I would much rather cancel the art competition for this year
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: save everything, and carry the prize over to next year
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: revamp the rules slightly
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: and re-announce at Space Vision
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: that will give us a full year
[18:10]  danderson Beck: I'm inclinded to agree
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: as opposed to 4 months
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: lead time
[18:10]  You: yes I see your point
[18:10]  Gerard Salyut: If we do this, I want it to look good for SEDS
[18:11]  Gerard Salyut: I would rather cancel it, than have a competition where we're giving awards for a crayon drawing that a 10 year old could have done
[18:11]  Gerard Salyut: which right now, we will be doing
[18:11]  Gerard Salyut: if we have it
[18:11]  BTYoung Yifu: sounds reasonable to me
[18:11]  Ryanblah Qinan: agreed
[18:11]  You: ok
[18:11]  You: I will get in contact with Mark Craig and tell him about the situation
[18:11]  Flight Band: All Go
[18:11]  Darrell Abel is Online
[18:11]  You: I will let you guys know if something will change regarding the prize
[18:12]  You: (his donation)
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: ok
[18:12]  You: Alright then that is settled
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: ask him if he is willing to have it carry over
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: to next year
[18:12]  You: right that is what i meant
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: yeah :-)
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: thanks Liz
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: ok
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: rocket competition
[18:12]  Gerard Salyut: some good feedback starting to come in
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: now that schools have started to look over the rules
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: one major piece of feedback
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: is that people want more time
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: they're thinking that 6 months from now (the current deadline)
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: is wayyy too soon
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: so most of the schools I talked with would like the launch date pushed back to the X PRIZE Cup in 09
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: 08****
[18:13]  Gerard Salyut: if there is one
[18:14]  Gerard Salyut: and if there isnt, then just doing it in next October
[18:14]  Gerard Salyut: (actually, if they announce no cup, might be nice to do it at next year's conference
[18:14]  Gerard Salyut: So what do you guys think?
[18:14]  Gerard Salyut: about pushing the competition date to the 08 cup?
[18:14]  Ryanblah Qinan: well, from our side, we're currently targeting the original deadline
[18:14]  Ryanblah Qinan: but pushing back the date would definitely be helpful
[18:14]  Gerard Salyut: Do you see it as doable?
[18:15]  BTYoung Yifu: I thought the deal was they didn't want to be the primary date though?
[18:15]  danderson Beck: well, if the cup is canceled, seems like it might be very hard to have it at space vision
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: it would basically be 6 months from today
[18:15]  danderson Beck: unless space vision is in a remote area
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: :-)
[18:15]  danderson Beck: not MIT
[18:15]  Ryanblah Qinan: or a non-remote one
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: lol
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: yeah
[18:15]  Ryanblah Qinan: ie, I wouldn't want to hve done it this year
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: yeah definetly not
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: wouldnt be able to do it in the northeast
[18:15]  Ryanblah Qinan: b/c you'd have to travel really far to get somewhere to launch
[18:15]  Gerard Salyut: or florida
[18:16]  Gerard Salyut: woul dhave to be west/midwest
[18:16]  Gerard Salyut: UofI, Tucson, Texas
[18:16]  BTYoung Yifu: even then its hard, we're too close to dallas and houston and austin to be much good
[18:16]  BTYoung Yifu: or our faa is just especially grumpy
[18:16]  Ryanblah Qinan: in other words, I wouldn;t be comfortable limiting the bids based on such restrictions
[18:16]  Gerard Salyut: yeah
[18:17]  You: yes
[18:17]  Gerard Salyut: So first I'd say, arguements towards having it in 6 months, or 1 year?
[18:17]  You: so basically, there is no interest in having it for 6 mo....correct?
[18:17]  Gerard Salyut: slight interest, but no problems with 12 months
[18:18]  BTYoung Yifu: we haven't looked at a timeline yet, so i won't argue with pushing it back
[18:18]  Gerard Salyut: outside of people are a little worried that chapters will delay starting on it
[18:18]  Gerard Salyut: unless it is sooner
[18:18]  Ryanblah Qinan: you could bump up deadlines on some demonstration flights
[18:18]  Ryanblah Qinan: to disallow that
[18:18]  Gerard Salyut: yeah
[18:18]  Ryanblah Qinan: w/o making everyon think that you're holding their hands
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: ok
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: yeah
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: how about a 6 month list of benchmarks?
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: that people should have reached
[18:19]  You: i think that would be useful
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: 9 months out, you must have registered. If you havent, then there's a fee
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: 6 months out, 1 list of benchmarks
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: and a 3 month out list of benchmarks
[18:19]  Gerard Salyut: followed by a pre-flight benchmarks
[18:20]  Gerard Salyut: I can get these written into the rules by the end of this weekend
[18:20]  Gerard Salyut: and published
[18:20]  Ryanblah Qinan: what was the target release date again
[18:20]  Gerard Salyut: rules have been released
[18:20]  Ryanblah Qinan: well this next version
[18:20]  Gerard Salyut: I was targetting a 'final' version by October 1st
[18:20]  Ryanblah Qinan: k
[18:20]  Gerard Salyut: a competition version basically
[18:20]  You: ok
[18:21]  Gerard Salyut: ok. So look for a mostly finished version of rules going out Sunday night
[18:21]  Gerard Salyut: to exec
[18:21]  Gerard Salyut: and a few others
[18:22]  Gerard Salyut: with a 'competition' guidelines going out October 1st
[18:22]  Gerard Salyut: so the official release will be over a year from competition
[18:22]  You: k
[18:23]  Gerard Salyut: Any other input on the rocket competition?
[18:23]  BTYoung Yifu: does it seem like theres a lot of interest?
[18:23]  Gerard Salyut: I'm going to meet with guys from Raytheon, Honeywell, and Boeing tommorow
[18:23]  Gerard Salyut: maybe ATK
[18:23]  Gerard Salyut: (they're in town for a career fair, so inviting out to dinner to talk about it... see if they take me up on it)
[18:23]  Gerard Salyut: as for interest
[18:24]  Gerard Salyut: UofA, MIT, TAMU, UCF
[18:24]  Gerard Salyut: are potentially interest
[18:24]  Gerard Salyut: UCF is a little overwealmed
[18:24]  Gerard Salyut: MIT and UofA already have teams getting together
[18:24]  You: make sure you email Damion and get him to announce it at a CoC and repeatedly send out emails
[18:24]  Gerard Salyut: yup
[18:24]  BTYoung Yifu: we will be as of next week
[18:25]  Gerard Salyut: cool
[18:25]  Gerard Salyut: I got to run actually, need to train new telescope operators
[18:25]  Gerard Salyut: any more quick questions?
[18:27]  You: ok (sorry had to run out of the room for a sec)
[18:27]  Gerard Salyut: ok
[18:27]  Gerard Salyut: later!
[18:27]  danderson Beck: Bye
[18:27]  Gerard Salyut is Offline
[18:27]  You: what i am most owrried about is publicizing the event
[18:27]  You: *worried
[18:27]  You: I think announcing it at SV would be helpful
[18:28]  Ryanblah Qinan: that always seems to be the hardest part of any of these kinds of things
[18:28]  You: yes
[18:28]  Ryanblah Qinan: I can add a workshop fr it too
[18:28]  You: That would be cool
[18:29]  You: And as much as everyone hates mass emails, I think every so often people need a little nudge
[18:29]  You: I am going to ask Brian to put an annoucement in NOVA
[18:29]  Ryanblah Qinan: along lines of publicizing stuff, I would like to throw in a shameless plug: for the student research poster presentations at SV
[18:29]  Ryanblah Qinan: talk to people in your chapters about presenting stuff
[18:30]  You: oh yeah, how is that going?
[18:30]  Ryanblah Qinan: so I haven't yet received any submissions
[18:30]  Ryanblah Qinan: although I know of two people who want to
[18:31]  Ryanblah Qinan: so I'm a bit worried as to what the interest level is
[18:31]  Ryanblah Qinan: we can probably get anumber of people from mit
[18:31]  danderson Beck: what chapters are planning on trips to space vision?
[18:31]  You: well, from what i have seen at school, the only students who have posters are ones who have presented their undergrad research at conferences
[18:32]  You: and unfortunately that isn't too many
[18:32]  danderson Beck: I'm sure UoI could have a meeting where this is announced
[18:32]  You: yeah
[18:32]  BTYoung Yifu: something else to bring up at the next CoC
[18:33]  You: i will email damion
[18:33]  You: other ews or announcements?
[18:34]  Ryanblah Qinan: regarding XPC
[18:34]  Ryanblah Qinan: it looks like we should have a strong presence there
[18:34]  Ryanblah Qinan: from a number of responses I have gotten to my email
[18:35]  Ryanblah Qinan: I'm working on the exact details for our booth there
[18:35]  Ryanblah Qinan: but it looks like we will have at least a core of 6 people at the booth
[18:35]  danderson Beck: thats alot
[18:35]  Darrell Abel is Offline
[18:35]  Ryanblah Qinan: ie I have to give her 6 names
[18:35]  danderson Beck: what do have in the booth again?
[18:35]  Ryanblah Qinan: that's another thing to decide
[18:36]  Ryanblah Qinan: if we can get some hardware from projects that seds chapters are working on, that would be awesome
[18:36]  Ryanblah Qinan: otherwise, we can just have a bunch of information on the various seds projects
[18:36]  Ryanblah Qinan: but I would like to see hardware if at all possible
[18:36]  You: we should have copies of the sponsorship brochure ready by then (i hope)
[18:36]  danderson Beck: we will
[18:37]  You: Danderson, are you for sure going?
[18:37]  danderson Beck: To X Prize? yes
[18:37]  You: ok make sure to bring a bunch of copies
[18:37]  danderson Beck: will do
[18:37]  You: I do not know if I will be attending
[18:38]  Ryanblah Qinan: it's unfortunately looking like I won't be able to
[18:38]  Ryanblah Qinan: btwn sv and a number of other things
[18:38]  Ryanblah Qinan: but I will attempt to do as much coordinationg between people before-the-fact
[18:39]  Ryanblah Qinan: which is promising since people who are planning on going seem to be informing me about it this time
[18:39]  You: cool
[18:39]  You: other suggestions for the booth?
[18:40]  Ryanblah Qinan: if you have anything, just email me
[18:40]  Ryanblah Qinan: I'll be sending specific requests for ideas to the chapters who are planning on attending
[18:40]  Ryanblah Qinan: (who have told me so far)
[18:40]  You: ok that works
[18:40]  You: any other announcements for this meeting?
[18:41]  You: ok then we are done for tonight
[18:41]  danderson Beck: Night
[18:41]  You: thanks for your comments
[18:41]  You: bye
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