2008 April 01 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript

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SEDS-USA Executive Board Meeting, April 1, 2008

Time: 9:00pm EST
Location: AOL Instant Messenger
Attendance: Joshua Nelson, Ryan McLinko, HaoQi Li, Brian Young, Kelly Mann, James Welch


[18:08] rmmlg08: has joined the chat
[18:08] hydrogenlithium: has joined the chat
[18:08] nyeerrmm: has joined the chat
[18:08] KellyMann10: has joined the chat
[18:08] Jedi8798: has joined the chat
[18:08] Jedi8798: hola all, sorry I'm late... design
meeting ran over
[18:09] KellyMann10: no worries
[18:09] nyeerrmm: i'll never forgive you for this
[18:09] Jedi8798: *wince* anyone know where Darrell or
Ryan G are?
[18:09] rmmlg08: motion for impeachment
[18:09] nyeerrmm: 20 years from now, yeah, you were
late for that one meeting
[18:09] Jedi8798: lol
[18:09] KellyMann10: no
[18:10] rmmlg08: haven't seen darrell in some time
[18:10] rmmlg08: he likes to sleep through meetings
though
[18:10] Jedi8798: Ryan G sent me an email saying he
cant make it, conflicting meeting
[18:10] Jedi8798: I'll buzz D quick
[18:10] rmmlg08: heh, good luck; he never answers his
phone
[18:11] Jedi8798: ah well, least I made the attempt
[18:11] Jedi8798: ok, getting started, Ryan you want
to go first?
[18:11] rmmlg08: sure
[18:11] rmmlg08: so has everyone had a chance to look
over what I sent out
[18:11] rmmlg08: basically I'm suggesting a few
changes
[18:12] rmmlg08: most important would be the text file
for constitutional amendments that we neglected when
doing last time
[18:12] rmmlg08: so we should probably look at those
first
[18:12] Jedi8798: whats the document name Ryan? I have
a pdf named constitution..
[18:13] rmmlg08: I emailed a zip file before meeting
last week
[18:13] Jedi8798: yeah I'm looking at that, see some
word docs, pdfs, and excels, no text file
[18:13] KellyMann10: im not sure that i have it, let
me check my mail
[18:13] KellyMann10: go it
[18:14] rmmlg08: looking for the file name; my
comouter is flipping out
[18:14] Jedi8798: np
[18:15] rmmlg08: oh, here we go
[18:15] rmmlg08: board_of_advisors_amendments.rtf
[18:16] rmmlg08: i'll give you guys a second to open
it up
[18:16] KellyMann10: got it
[18:16] Jedi8798: got it
[18:16] Jedi8798: *reads it*
[18:17] rmmlg08: k, so...
[18:17] Jedi8798: some grammatical edits: replace
'hails' with 'communications'... unfortunately we're
not on the Enterprise
[18:17] rmmlg08: heh
[18:17] rmmlg08: but anyone have issues with the
substance
[18:18] Jedi8798: is that the only responsibilities
you want to have?
[18:18] rmmlg08: o/w might as well have someone other
than me edit grammar to make sure we don't miss
anything before proposing to coc
[18:18] Jedi8798: nothing like... "must fulfill
duties/obligations"?
[18:18] rmmlg08: so, when writing this
[18:18] rmmlg08: I felt like I was missing something
[18:19] rmmlg08: ie about their duries
[18:19] Jedi8798: well, when I read this, it sounds
like they only have 2 responsibilities
[18:19] rmmlg08: right
[18:19] rmmlg08: I was just having difficulty
enumerating others
[18:19] rmmlg08: ideas?
[18:20] Jedi8798: well, what do you envision as the
job/responsibility of the advisors?
[18:20] Jedi8798: are they just a rubber stamp on the
endowment?
[18:20] rmmlg08: I mean, they're there to 1.) rubber
stamp
[18:20] rmmlg08: 2.) to do such various advisement and
such for the fund
[18:20] rmmlg08: but I couldn't think of a way to
explicitly state something like that
[18:21] rmmlg08: ie the general advising duties seemed
to be harder to hold them to in something like this
[18:21] Jedi8798: change 2 to: respond to requests for
advice from the Executive Board in a timely manner
[18:22] Jedi8798: you can swap Exec Board with Vice
chair if you want
[18:22] Jedi8798: threw exec board in there incase
Ryan G wants to ask them for advice on his finances
[18:22] rmmlg08: sure
[18:23] rmmlg08: anything else?
[18:23] rmmlg08: or should we defeine timely?
[18:23] Jedi8798: no
[18:23] Jedi8798: its purposely left vague
[18:23] rmmlg08: yes
[18:23] Jedi8798: if you say like in a few days, then
you dont leave room for outstanding circumstances,
etc..
[18:23] rmmlg08: I hope this is something that I don't
need to enforce
[18:24] rmmlg08: ok cool
[18:24] rmmlg08: if no other suggestions to this
[18:25] rmmlg08: then let's move on to seds-usa
failure contingencies
[18:25] KellyMann10: k
[18:25] hydrogenlithium: eh
[18:25] rmmlg08: i'll give you guys a chance to read
briefly
[18:26] Jedi8798: sounds good
[18:26] rmmlg08: i was kinda making up numbers for
some of these
[18:26] rmmlg08: so if you have suggestions on
changing those
[18:27] KellyMann10: i like the numbers
[18:27] rmmlg08: or removing or adding points
[18:27] Jedi8798: sounds good
[18:27] rmmlg08: k cool
[18:27] nyeerrmm: have we run these by darrell's dad
to see if that works for that side of things?
[18:27] Jedi8798: also gives motivation for the
executive board to hold CoC's
[18:27] rmmlg08: we have not
[18:27] rmmlg08: but things like point 3
[18:27] rmmlg08: on the second two lists
[18:27] rmmlg08: require input from them
[18:27] rmmlg08: at the very lesat
[18:27] nyeerrmm: sounds good
[18:28] Jedi8798: sounds good Ryan, just run it by us
again once we know what other requirements they add on
[18:28] rmmlg08: wukk di
[18:28] rmmlg08: eww
[18:28] rmmlg08: will do
[18:28] rmmlg08: anyway, next item
[18:28] rmmlg08: new name for this board
[18:28] rmmlg08: for lack of creativity
[18:28] rmmlg08: I've been callign them
[18:28] rmmlg08: "Endowment Fund Board of Directors"
[18:28] rmmlg08: thoughts?
[18:29] Jedi8798: is this the advisors board?
[18:30] rmmlg08: that's actually something that I'm
not sure has been entirely determined now that I think
of it
[18:30] rmmlg08: so, the main purpose of these guys is
to do the fund
[18:30] rmmlg08: so I was thinking of them as
effectively our board
[18:30] rmmlg08: *advisors board
[18:30] rmmlg08: but if it seems there is sufficient
reason to have another one
[18:30] rmmlg08: we can do that
[18:31] rmmlg08: any ideas for why we might want two
boards?
[18:31] Jedi8798: "Endowment Fund Advisory Board"?
Board of Directors would lead to confusion with the
Exec Board
[18:31] rmmlg08: true, I like that better
[18:32] KellyMann10: me too
[18:32] rmmlg08: other thoughts?
[18:32] Jedi8798: that part sounds good with those
changes
[18:32] rmmlg08: k
[18:32] rmmlg08: so I attached a number of other docs
[18:33] rmmlg08: feel free to look through those if
you want to
[18:33] rmmlg08: but we've looked through them with
not really any major changes
[18:33] rmmlg08: the next steps are to:
[18:33] rmmlg08: 1.) check this with the fund people
[18:33] rmmlg08: 2.) decide on who we want to be on
this first baord
[18:34] rmmlg08: 3.) convene another endowment meeting
now that we've addressed action items since last one
[18:34] rmmlg08: so, gi agead ahead and read over the
other docs if you get a chance
[18:34] rmmlg08: and send me any comments
[18:34] Jedi8798: k
[18:34] KellyMann10: k
[18:34] Jedi8798: One note for you Ryan on the
Endowment fund in general
[18:35] Jedi8798: in my meeting with Raytheon, I
mentioned the Endowment fund to them
[18:35] rmmlg08: beyond that, josh, did youhave any
other grammar issues on the constitution thing?
[18:35] Jedi8798: lol
[18:35] Jedi8798: I'll let you know
[18:35] rmmlg08: k, when your done, we'll send off to
darrell for coc
[18:35] Jedi8798: But what Raytheon mentioned was that
for an Endowment like this
[18:35] Jedi8798: they would highly like to see some
sort of scholarship
[18:35] Jedi8798: because almost all of the endowments
raytheon sponsors
[18:35] Jedi8798: are for scholarships
[18:36] Jedi8798: and rarely do they give to purely an
operational endowment
[18:36] rmmlg08: k
[18:36] Jedi8798: so the guys I talked to suggested we
throw some sort of scholarship in there
[18:36] rmmlg08: we've got some scholarships in the
budget
[18:36] rmmlg08: but can throw more empasis on them
[18:36] rmmlg08: if we think they are particularly
important
[18:36] Jedi8798: yup
[18:37] rmmlg08: to getting money, etc
[18:37] rmmlg08: if nothing else from anyone, I'm done
[18:38] Jedi8798: k
[18:38] Jedi8798: Next on the list, HaoQi, did you
want to discuss your expansion letter?
[18:38] hydrogenlithium:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dddt9fdw_82vs95k39m&hl=en
[18:38] hydrogenlithium: can you open it?
[18:39] hydrogenlithium: Read it over and make
comments please
[18:39] Jedi8798: yup it opens fine
[18:40] KellyMann10: reading now
[18:41] rmmlg08: looks a lot better than last week
[18:41] hydrogenlithium: does SEDS=USA also offer
scholarships?
[18:41] Jedi8798: I would recommend in the opening,
editing it to: "My name is HaoQi Li and I am the
SEDS-USA Director of Chapter Expansions. I would like
a few moments of your time to explain why establishing
a chapter of the Students for the Exploration and
Development of Space (SEDS) would be beneficial for
your school."
[18:42] Jedi8798: yes in conjunction with NSS
[18:42] Jedi8798: a scholarship to ISU
[18:42] nyeerrmm: i would recommend though, if you
have any personal contact at all with the person, add
something on top of the form letter
[18:42] hydrogenlithium: no
[18:42] hydrogenlithium: this is for schools where we
have to google the person's contact info
[18:43] nyeerrmm: all right,
[18:46] KellyMann10: looks good to me HaoQi
[18:47] Jedi8798: good enough for government work
[18:47] rmmlg08: well, slightly better than that
[18:47] Jedi8798: lol
[18:47] rmmlg08: but yeah, works
[18:47] RolandBolser: has joined the chat
[18:47] Jedi8798: anything else HaoQi or input for
her?
[18:47] hydrogenlithium: I worry that people are going
to just glance it over and not do anything
[18:47] rmmlg08: well, that's why you follow up
[18:47] hydrogenlithium: ><
[18:48] nyeerrmm: yeah, theres no way to avoid that
with a form letter
[18:48] rmmlg08: but, your email does what it's
supposed to do
[18:48] rmmlg08: as best a generic letter can
[18:48] hydrogenlithium: ok. For next week I should
start gathering people's email addresses
[18:49] hydrogenlithium: Hopefully we can get a good
amount for the conference next year
[18:49] hydrogenlithium: I'm done
[18:51] Jedi8798: ok
[18:51] Jedi8798: Next up, Ryan could you give us a
CoC update?
[18:52] rmmlg08: sure
[18:52] rmmlg08: so we went over the exec updates
[18:52] rmmlg08: with no objections
[18:52] rmmlg08: then josh talked about the rocket
compeition
[18:53] rmmlg08: we went over some general updates
[18:53] rmmlg08: and then got some input from the
teams
[18:53] rmmlg08: participating
[18:53] rmmlg08: lastly, I went into briefing them on
isdc stuff
[18:53] rmmlg08: and got interest from a number of
chapters
[18:54] rmmlg08: so gave me some more hope on getting
a good turnout
[18:54] rmmlg08: and now hopefully people will respond
to my emails better now
[18:54] rmmlg08: that's the abridged version
[18:55] rmmlg08: if anyone has questions or wants
clarification/more details on anything, let me know
[18:55] rmmlg08: o/w minutes should be up I think
[18:55] Jedi8798: k thanks Ryan
[18:55] Jedi8798: One last item for tonight
[18:56] Jedi8798: there is a division of the Civil Air
Patrol interested in starting a SEDS chapter. But they
are asking if they could be a chapter without having
to register with any particular school, seeing as they
have students from a number of different schools.
[18:57] Jedi8798: My opinion on this is that there
should be no problem letting them join, since the rule
of having SEDS chapters be at schools is just supposed
to be helpful in building the chapter
[18:57] Jedi8798: not restrictuve
[18:57] Jedi8798: restrictive*
[18:57] Jedi8798: I wanted to get approval from you
all before formally letting them in
[18:57] Jedi8798: Opinions?
[18:58] nyeerrmm: is this for single-member
chapters... i think i must have missed the actual
topic when you sent it
[18:58] rmmlg08: well, as long as we can guaruntee
that they are students
[18:58] rmmlg08: I don't see a problem
[18:59] KellyMann10: yeah, i agree with Ryan
[18:59] Jedi8798: no this is for groups independent of
schools
[18:59] Jedi8798: (in answer to brian)
[18:59] Jedi8798: this group for example has students
from 8 different schools
[18:59] Jedi8798: and some home schooled students
[18:59] rmmlg08: yeah, I know
[19:00] nyeerrmm: all right, it sounds good to me,
although the proof of being a student is a bit
difficult to pull off
[19:00] Jedi8798: Allright, all in favor of allowing
groups not associated with a particular school join
SEDS so long as they can prove they are full time
students? (Aye/Nay/Abstain)
[19:00] rmmlg08: i
[19:00] hydrogenlithium: aye
[19:00] KellyMann10: aye
[19:00] nyeerrmm: aye
[19:00] Jedi8798: aye
[19:00] Jedi8798: motion carries
[19:01] Jedi8798: any last minute items?
[19:01] KellyMann10: none from me
[19:02] Jedi8798: allright meeting adjourned.
2007-2008 SEDS-USA Meetings
Exec Board Minutes:
Exec Board Transcripts: 11/27 | 12/04 | 12/11 | 12/18 | 01/01 | 01/08 | 01/15 | 01/22 | 01/29 | 02/05 | 02/12 | 02/19 | 02/26 | 03/04 | 03/11 | 03/18 | 03/25 | 04/01 | 04/08 | 04/15 | 04/22 | 04/29 | 05/06 | 05/13 | 05/20 | 05/27 | 06/03 | 06/10 | 06/17 | 07/01 | 07/08 | 07/15 | 07/22 | 07/29 | 08/05 | 08/12 | 08/26 | 09/02 | 09/09 | 09/16 | 09/23 | 09/30 | 10/07 | 10/14 | 10/21 | 10/28 | 11/04 | 11/11
Special Meetings Transcripts: 12/31 | 06/06
Endowment Fund Minutes: 02/09
Council of Chapters Transcripts: 01/30 | 02/29 | 03/26 | 04/30 | 05/29 | 06/25 | 07/30 | 08/27 | 09/24
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