2005 August 10 SEDS-USA Exec Transcript

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[mark] 7:05 pm: Okay shall we get started?
[mark] 7:05 pm: I was hoping Megha would be here.
[senning] 7:05 pm: I will make my font bright pink if I must.
[rechenma] 7:05 pm: let's shall
[rechenma] 7:06 pm: we can hold her part off, i guess
[mark] 7:06 pm: (And a bunch of other people, of course)
[palashbasu] 7:06 pm: whats the agenda, people??
[kaptain80] 7:06 pm: check your email -- it was posted to sedsexec
[JoshinTucson] 7:06 pm: I believe Mark sent out a prelim
[mark] 7:06 pm:
[palashbasu] 7:06 pm: sorry, kirk
[JoshinTucson] 7:06 pm: or Kirk, or one of those people
[mark] 7:06 pm: Er, oops
[rechenma] 7:07 pm: as a quick reminder - if i don't respond it's because i'm off packing
[rechenma] 7:07 pm: please be patient
[palashbasu] 7:07 pm: my internet hasnt been working for 2 days
[palashbasu] 7:07 pm: anyways
[mark] 7:07 pm: Okay. Before we start the agenda, I want to show you guys something that Jess and I came up with.
[mark] 7:07 pm: http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/Ideas
[mark] 7:07 pm: It's a wiki to put random SEDS ideas.
[JoshinTucson] 7:08 pm: *clicks*
[palashbasu] 7:08 pm: i've seen it
[mark] 7:08 pm: Everything posted there now is stuff Jess and I have come up with. We haven't really announced much of them yet.
[JoshinTucson] 7:08 pm: Will we all have access?
[kaptain80] 7:08 pm: Yes!
[mark] 7:08 pm: Yep. Anyone can post there. Just attach a signature so we know who posted.
[JoshinTucson] 7:09 pm: k
[mark] 7:09 pm: There's a bunch of random stuff there that hopefully we can discuss in the coming weeks.
[mark] 7:09 pm: So on to the agenda. The first order of business is Telecons.
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[mark] 7:10 pm: I sent out an email earlier this week suggesting we start holding regular telecons. The contents of that email are also in that ideas wiki page, under Meetings / Telecons
[JoshinTucson] 7:10 pm: Guess Kirk doesnt like Telecons.
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[mark] 7:10 pm: lol
[mark] 7:10 pm: How does everyone feel about scheduling a SEDS telecon?
[rechenma] 7:10 pm: Mark, you need to fully explain your idea to me
[rechenma] 7:10 pm: i picture 8 people around my cell phone on "speaker"
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[mark] 7:11 pm: Imagine, rather, 8 people on their cell phones on an 8-way call.
[rechenma] 7:11 pm: good turnout
[mark] 7:11 pm: Hey Megha. We're discussing telecons.
[sharm4f5] 7:11 pm: hey everyone
[mark] 7:12 pm: It functions as such: we all call into a telecon service, which puts us all in a "room". It's basically an 8-way call like I said.
[JoshinTucson] 7:12 pm: I tend to fine a teleconferance to be alot more hectic, as well as alot harder to document and post. Chats can easily be transcripted and quickly posted, for people to quickly catch up on.
[sharm4f5] 7:12 pm: yea
[sharm4f5] 7:12 pm: now did we have one this weekend?
[mark] 7:12 pm: Definitely Josh. We'll have to establish a moderator and secretary for each telecon to ensure that things stay on track, and minutes are recorded.
[mark] 7:13 pm: I've participated in a series of SpaceGen telecons this summer (with Kirk) and both of us can attest to the fact that they work really really well.
[rechenma] 7:13 pm: we can also relegate it to more "action" meetings than "agenda" meetings if we have to
[kaptain80] 7:13 pm: occasional phone telecons are ok -- but they start to leave dents in my cell phone bill
[JoshinTucson] 7:13 pm: Also they tend to take alot longer than chats, simply in that it that you can have several people typing up reports and comments at once, which can be read in seconds, while only one person at a time can go in telecons
[mark] 7:14 pm: See Josh, I disagree there. I think our chats go really slow, whereas the telecons tend to go fast.
[mark] 7:14 pm: No typing time necessary.
[rechenma] 7:14 pm: they do, however, provide more resources at our fingertips, granted
[mark] 7:15 pm: Look at the timestamps on our messages, for example. We only get a few messages out per minute. Compare that to an continuous phone discussion.
[rechenma] 7:15 pm: perhaps a combination (brainstorming here...)
[senning] 7:15 pm: I think people will feel more obligation to go to a telecon than a chat meeting.
[mark] 7:15 pm: That's what I proposed on the wiki: we can do both telecons and chat meetings.
[mark] 7:15 pm: Telecons can serve as action oriented, like you said Alex.
[mark] 7:15 pm: Keeping everyone up to date and keeping projects moving.
[kaptain80] 7:15 pm: a monthly telecon sounds good to me
[mark] 7:15 pm: We can put major discussions and such on the chat server.
[mark] 7:16 pm: Monthly telecon sounds good to me too. Everyone else?
[sharm4f5] 7:16 pm: hmmmm
[JoshinTucson] 7:16 pm: I would agree with using them on a trial basis for some of the smaller group meetings, and if they seem to work out well, we can start applying them where appropiate.
[senning] 7:16 pm: I like it.
[sharm4f5] 7:16 pm: aite
[mark] 7:16 pm: Alright, let's schedule a trail telecon then?
[JoshinTucson] 7:17 pm: Though the one downside I do see is we all will wrack up major phone bills.
[mark] 7:17 pm: I suggest the weekend, to take advantage of weekend minutes on cell phones.
[rechenma] 7:17 pm: how about for the education meeting we never had?
[rechenma] 7:17 pm: pick a topic or something
[senning] 7:17 pm: when was the last time we heard from Jaime?
[rechenma] 7:17 pm: maybe (if we're doing it soon) recruitment strategies
[JoshinTucson] 7:17 pm: good idea Mark, perhaps earlier in the day? so we dont interupt people's night life?
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[rechenma] 7:18 pm: she emailed me her phone info today
[rechenma] 7:18 pm: Jamie did
[mark] 7:18 pm: Let's discuss our expansion effort for the coming semester. Sound good Palash?

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[mark] 7:25 pm: Sorry.
[mark] 7:26 pm: This would be the SEDS national account.
[JoshinTucson] 7:26 pm: And who would have access to the account ?
[mark] 7:26 pm: The Director of Finance and the financial committee would be signatories, but everyone will be able to make deposits.
[JoshinTucson] 7:27 pm: and Withdrawls?
[JoshinTucson] 7:27 pm: would it be 1, 2, or more people required?
[kaptain80] 7:27 pm: the real question there -- I believe it takes two for a "corporate" account
[mark] 7:27 pm: Ideally 2 people. We could also set up a debut/atm card.
[mark] 7:28 pm: (I think)
[mark] 7:28 pm: I think you're right Kirk.
[JoshinTucson] 7:28 pm: 2 is fine. Just want to make sure there is at least some check there on access (pun intended).
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[mark] 7:29 pm: Yeah, it'll be two at the least.
[mark] 7:29 pm: Hey Jaime
[j_me] 7:29 pm: sorry for my tardiness
[mark] 7:29 pm: In that case, is everyone in agreement that we should set up an account at Bank of America? John Evans is out of town but we'll do it when he gets back.
[mark] 7:30 pm: Don't worry, the meeting is running slow.
[JoshinTucson] 7:30 pm: We are discussing the ideas Mark, that is what the meeting is for.
[mark] 7:30 pm: Hehe I know, like I said the times I gave were just for show really. This discussion is good.
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[sharm4f5] 7:31 pm: well this will be a small business account pretty much, n they can issue multiple atm cards, so that is cool
[mark] 7:31 pm: Test
[mark] 7:32 pm: How about, Alex and I send an email asking for an official vote about the account at Bank of America?
[JoshinTucson] 7:32 pm: Lets refrain from ATM cards for the moment
[JoshinTucson] 7:32 pm: checks are much easier to document and keep a handle on
[kaptain80] 7:32 pm: yeah, no real need for the cards at the moment
[mark] 7:33 pm: I agree, with the cards.
[JoshinTucson] 7:33 pm: Also should talk to John about establishing a firm place where all reciepts are kept
[JoshinTucson] 7:33 pm: but that is a finance committee issue
[mark] 7:34 pm: John has a binder right now with everything finance.
[mark] 7:34 pm: Okay, any other concerns about the bank?
[JoshinTucson] 7:34 pm: Quick check, is there a bank of America near all of the chapters represented here?
[JoshinTucson] 7:35 pm: There are several in Tucson.
[mark] 7:35 pm: It's about 40 miles from Champaign, but there are ATMs in champaign to make deposits.
[sharm4f5] 7:35 pm: there are several in daytona
[kaptain80] 7:36 pm: that's all of today's representation: ERAU, UA, and UI
[mark] 7:36 pm: All righty.
[mark] 7:36 pm: The next order of business was Individual membership and virtual chapters. Kirk, do you want to take over for this one?
[kaptain80] 7:37 pm: sure
[kaptain80] 7:37 pm: who is *unfamiliar* with this concept?
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[kaptain80] 7:37 pm: concept = individual membership (virtual chapters come next)
[rechenma] 7:37 pm: i am no longer unfamiliar
[mark] 7:38 pm: (Jaime, can you do us a favor and see where the nearest Bank of America branch is to your school?)
[kaptain80] 7:38 pm: quick overview -- individual members are SEDS members without a local chapter
[j_me] 7:38 pm: sure...
[kaptain80] 7:38 pm: for instance, a student from Cleveland State wants to join SEDS, but is unsure about having enough students at CSU to start a chapter
[kaptain80] 7:39 pm: the idea is that he pays $10 to SEDS-USA -- he is an "individual member" that gets mailings, eligibility for scholarships, but doesn't get a vote for elections
[kaptain80] 7:39 pm: that's it in a nutshell -- any ?'s
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[JoshinTucson] 7:40 pm: We might be able to do it so that all the individual members together get one vote
[JoshinTucson] 7:40 pm: Counting as their own chapter
[JoshinTucson] 7:40 pm: Chapter of individual membership
[mark] 7:40 pm: I'd like to suggest that we make individual membership free until November (at least).
[mark] 7:41 pm: (You can read my full thoughts on individual membership at http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/Ideas#Membership&nbsp
[kaptain80] 7:41 pm: back to Josh -- that's an idea, but I have another suggestion when we get to virtual chapters that will tie into this
[kaptain80] 7:41 pm: Mark -- why do you suggest this?
[mark] 7:41 pm: At this point, to build membership. But more importantly, I feel SEDS doesn't have enough to offer to justify a membership fee.
[kaptain80] 7:42 pm: for one thing, SEDS members get a $10 discount to the conference
[JoshinTucson] 7:42 pm: agreed
[kaptain80] 7:42 pm: and if that's the case, why chapter fees?
[mark] 7:42 pm: I think it'll turn people away. I think, for now, we could do a big free-membership push, and then in November decide on a fee.
[rechenma] 7:43 pm: sorry to back up a bit - there are current provisions in the bylaws for individual members in voting if you need a springboard for ideas (and if my head isn't making that up)
[JoshinTucson] 7:43 pm: That was an agreement with Mark, but more of because half hte year is over already and a fee such as that would be better implimented at teh beggining of a new 'term'
[mark] 7:43 pm: Chapters get to vote in elections, etc. It's easier to get fees from a chapter. Also, it gives us a good method of distinguishing chapters in good and not-so-good standing.
[kaptain80] 7:43 pm: isn't this fall the beginning of the new term?
[rechenma] 7:44 pm: personally, i am in favor of fees
[sharm4f5] 7:44 pm: (just an opinion)-free membership to any organization-ppl tend to take it for granted
[mark] 7:44 pm: I think 'term' as in 'term of office for the board', which starts in november.
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[rechenma] 7:44 pm: they add a sense of belonging - the smaller membership base that we would have would be stronger
[j_me] 7:44 pm: This chat server keeps kicking me off unexpectedly
[rechenma] 7:45 pm: and i think for the types of people kirk is talking about , a fee is a good idea
[rechenma] 7:45 pm: yeah - it does that, Jamie
[mark] 7:45 pm: Jaime, try using a different web broswer if you have one. I can't get this to work on anything but Internet Explorer.
[rechenma] 7:45 pm: Your Taro's, Scott Shackleford's....etc
[rechenma] 7:45 pm: and if they start a chapter, no dues for the first year!
[sharm4f5] 7:45 pm: like the feeling that may be its just soemthing not worth it
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[j_me] 7:46 pm: But there's a BOA .5 miles from MIT
[rechenma] 7:46 pm: bye, kirk
[mark] 7:46 pm: Can we set up two levels of indvidiaul membership? Free members and paid members?
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[JoshinTucson] 7:46 pm: Probally not a good idea
[mark] 7:46 pm: (indvidiaul as a word is patent pending)
[JoshinTucson] 7:46 pm: then people will be 'joining' to get their name on a list with no intention of doing anything
[j_me] 7:46 pm: ha.
[rechenma] 7:46 pm: there's an idea, Mark
[j_me] 7:47 pm: true
[rechenma] 7:47 pm: i like that
[kaptain80] 7:47 pm: what happened in the last minute (pm me)
[mark] 7:47 pm: Why not, Josh? (Kirk, I suggested two levels of individual membership, free and paid)
[kaptain80] 7:47 pm: there is free membership -- seds-announce@seds.org
[sharm4f5] 7:47 pm: and what will paid members get that free members will not?
[mark] 7:47 pm: That's true Josh, but we get their name on a list and can start bombarding them with info. Basically it's a way to set up a free contacts list.
[mark] 7:47 pm: I agree Kirk, I think we should make it more explicit as such.
[rechenma] 7:47 pm: votes, free dues if you start a chapter, conference discount
[mark] 7:48 pm: The idea I had for free membership was basically a way for us to get student contacts. Rather than going to them, they come to us and sign up on our website. Then BAM, we have contacts.
[kaptain80] 7:48 pm: plus, if Philip from CSU pays $10 to be an indie member, he's eligible for the $15k NSS ISU scholarship
[j_me] 7:48 pm: What are dues now?
[JoshinTucson] 7:48 pm: Did we ever get those magazine subscriptions for all SEDS chapters set up?
[kaptain80] 7:48 pm: there are no set dues for indie membership
[rechenma] 7:48 pm: i lke the two level thing
[rechenma] 7:49 pm: are we going on that?
[kaptain80] 7:49 pm: sure, then what I'm talking about is the "paid level" and the "free level" already is up
[JoshinTucson] 7:49 pm: Perhaps we should vote on a temporary measure and then have a formal descision at the November meeting of all chapters?
[kaptain80] 7:50 pm: soudns good -- that way I can mention the individual membership in this mailing that's going out tonight
[mark] 7:50 pm: Okay. So as it stands, the free level is basically signing up for seds-announce, and the paid level is Kirk's individual membership program.
[sharm4f5] 7:51 pm: aite
[j_me] 7:51 pm: should we call for a vote?
[JoshinTucson] 7:51 pm: Alex?
[rechenma] 7:52 pm: sorry
[JoshinTucson] 7:52 pm: np man we understand your busy.
[rechenma] 7:52 pm: thanks
[rechenma] 7:53 pm: We are voting for Kirk's amendment in full form?
[rechenma] 7:53 pm: as available on the link provided?
[mark] 7:53 pm: As I understand, yes.
[JoshinTucson] 7:53 pm: Until the November meeting where a formal descision can be made.
[kaptain80] 7:53 pm: yes
[rechenma] 7:53 pm: ok
[kaptain80] 7:54 pm: (yes to Josh)
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: in favor then?
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: I
[mark] 7:54 pm: Aye
[j_me] 7:54 pm: aye
[JoshinTucson] 7:54 pm: Aye mateyyyy.
[sharm4f5] 7:54 pm: in
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: palash?
[palashbasu] 7:54 pm: aye
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: ok then
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: opposed?
[rechenma] 7:54 pm: 6-0 passed
[mark] 7:55 pm: Cool.
[mark] 7:55 pm: All right, shall we move on in the agenda then?
[kaptain80] 7:55 pm: that was just ind membership, right?
[kaptain80] 7:55 pm: did you want to hear about the virtual chatpers?
[kaptain80] 7:55 pm: or did you just vote on that?
[mark] 7:55 pm: I thought it was the whole package.
[senning] 7:55 pm: uhm, I have a question. I wasn't supposed to vote, since I'm not on the board, right?
[rechenma] 7:55 pm: whole package
[mark] 7:55 pm: Alex?
[rechenma] 7:55 pm: technically no...but go ahead Jess
[kaptain80] 7:55 pm: nope, me and you are just observers, Jess
[mark] 7:56 pm: Yes, Jess. Don't worry we still love you.
[senning] 7:56 pm: =) okay just checking.
[mark] 7:57 pm: Okay. Just to make it absolutely clear, no one objects to the Individual membership and Virtual chapters program?
[mark] 7:57 pm: Okay, let's move on.
[mark] 7:57 pm: Next item on the agenda: the new website. Alex, want to take this one?
[kaptain80] 7:58 pm: I love you guys now but will hate you in an hour when I stuff that info into 250 envelopes
[rechenma] 7:58 pm: can you give me afew mins, mark?
[JoshinTucson] 7:58 pm: lol
[rechenma] 7:58 pm: come back to me?
[JoshinTucson] 7:58 pm: poor Kirk
[mark] 7:59 pm: Sure thing.
[rechenma] 7:59 pm: kool
[senning] 7:59 pm: Kirk I'll help out if you want
[mark] 7:59 pm: lol Kirk
[mark] 7:59 pm: I'd help but I'm in Chicago.
[mark] 8:00 pm: Okay. Well the last thing on the agenda was just some broad discussion about Josh's resignation and such.
[mark] 8:00 pm: According the bylaws, the Vice-Chair replaces the Chair in the event that the Chair steps down, so Alex is now officially the Chair.
[JoshinTucson] 8:01 pm: Congrats Alex.
[mark] 8:01 pm: http://seds.org/seds/constitution/bylaws.html#SECTION_14
[mark] 8:01 pm: This leaves a vacancy in terms of the vice chair position.
[sharm4f5] 8:01 pm: OK Congratulations to Alex from all
[rechenma] 8:02 pm: i didn't do anything
[palashbasu] 8:02 pm: congrats alex
[mark] 8:02 pm: Also, Kirk had requested we institute Elliot Kulakow as a Director of High School affairs.
[mark] 8:02 pm: Anyone interested in making an official vote on that now and then including him in upcoming meetings?
[rechenma] 8:03 pm: I don't see a need to vote
[mark] 8:03 pm: It's your call, I just wanted to bring it up. (
[rechenma] 8:03 pm: it's either a) appointed or b) supposed to be voted on by the CoC
[rechenma] 8:03 pm: not sure what the bylaws say
[mark] 8:04 pm: You're right, I'm just pulling up that info now.
[rechenma] 8:04 pm: so unless there's opposition?
[mark] 8:04 pm: My mistake.
[rechenma] 8:04 pm: no opposition here
[mark] 8:04 pm: Is Elliot already on the sedsexec list, Kirk?
[JoshinTucson] 8:04 pm: none here
[kaptain80] 8:05 pm: no
[kaptain80] 8:05 pm: I'll send him the link
[kaptain80] 8:05 pm: for all of your info -- it's terramars@gmail.com
[j_me] 8:05 pm: who is Elliot?
[rechenma] 8:05 pm: an enthused high school senior
[kaptain80] 8:06 pm: Elliot is a student from Harrisonburg HS in VA that we met at ISDC
[j_me] 8:06 pm: cool
[kaptain80] 8:06 pm: he does http://www.xprizenews.org/
[rechenma] 8:06 pm: does?
[rechenma] 8:06 pm: like...writes it?
[kaptain80] 8:06 pm: in high school, I was just a pain in the ass, but he seems to have his stuff together
[mark] 8:06 pm: Okay cool. We're at our one hour point now but if everyone doesn't mind, do you want to stick around for the website discussion tonight?
[rechenma] 8:06 pm: updates it?
[kaptain80] 8:06 pm: yeah
[kaptain80] 8:07 pm: he created it
[rechenma] 8:07 pm: neato
[rechenma] 8:07 pm: i will stick around for the web site discussion mark
[kaptain80] 8:07 pm: check the about page -- http://www.xprizenews.org/about.php
[mark] 8:07 pm: Are you ready to run it?
[j_me] 8:07 pm: me too
[mark] 8:08 pm: Yeah, Elliot will be a great guy to have on board.
[rechenma] 8:08 pm: yeah i'm good
[mark] 8:08 pm: Okay, all yours!
[rechenma] 8:08 pm: ok all
[sharm4f5] 8:08 pm: yes
[rechenma] 8:08 pm: new versions at http://www.sedshome.org/new
[rechenma] 8:09 pm: if you want a login, tell me a preferred username right now
[rechenma] 8:09 pm: you can test out more stuff with it
[senning] 8:09 pm: Jess
[rechenma] 8:10 pm: there are a few small things here or there...if you see them, please take note and send me an email
[mark] 8:10 pm: mark
[j_me] 8:10 pm: preferred username = j_me
[rechenma] 8:10 pm: if it's a big thing...feel free to tell me now
[sharm4f5] 8:10 pm: alex this is cool
[rechenma] 8:10 pm: mark, you have one goof
[sharm4f5] 8:10 pm: megha
[mark] 8:10 pm:
[mark] 8:10 pm: Yeah, great work Alex, this site rocks.
[JoshinTucson] 8:10 pm: I would like to call a motion to give Alex permission to impliment his new Web page as soon as he feels ready.
[mark] 8:10 pm: I love the news/events setup.
[mark] 8:10 pm: I second that motion.
[rechenma] 8:11 pm: all in favor then?
[palashbasu] 8:11 pm: yes
[mark] 8:11 pm: yea
[JoshinTucson] 8:11 pm: Aye
[j_me] 8:11 pm: AYE
[rechenma] 8:11 pm: username: Jess password: sedsexec
[senning] 8:11 pm: hell yeah
[sharm4f5] 8:11 pm: go for it
[JoshinTucson] 8:12 pm: Definetly is a massive improvement over the current page
[j_me] 8:12 pm: I agree
[JoshinTucson] 8:12 pm: (And I cannot spell to save my life tonight)
[mark] 8:12 pm: Yes.
[rechenma] 8:13 pm: ok...i guess that passes?
[rechenma] 8:13 pm: i wasn't counting
[rechenma] 8:13 pm: username: j_me password: sedsexec
[mark] 8:13 pm: 6-0
[JoshinTucson] 8:13 pm: 6-0
[j_me] 8:13 pm: thanks
[rechenma] 8:14 pm: username: megha password: sedsexec
[mark] 8:14 pm: How soon can we get this on seds.org, Alex?
[rechenma] 8:14 pm: hopefully i did those right
[rechenma] 8:14 pm: unfortunately, it will be at least a few days
[rechenma] 8:14 pm: i'm trying to get a hold of kevin
[JoshinTucson] 8:14 pm: Chris L can probally give you access as Kevin is no longer involved.
[senning] 8:15 pm: hoooray I really like this site =D
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: i left him a voicemail
[mark] 8:15 pm: I suggest we aim to have this site implemented by August 17. (Just to have a deadline). Can you do this, Alex?
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: Chris...doesn't know how to access the database
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: it's a matter of if I can figure out what's up with Kevin by then
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: i can shoot for that, Mark
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: i don't know
[kaptain80] 8:15 pm: can you create a new one?
[rechenma] 8:15 pm: did all those logins work?
[mark] 8:15 pm: Okay.
[senning] 8:16 pm: mine did.
[JoshinTucson] 8:16 pm: Just have it up when you can Alex.
[rechenma] 8:16 pm: oops...i forgot to make jamie and megha national exec
[rechenma] 8:16 pm: one min
[kaptain80] 8:16 pm: if the database isn't up, the most important thing to have up is events and expansion info
[rechenma] 8:17 pm: yeah....that's true
[rechenma] 8:17 pm: which can be done
[rechenma] 8:17 pm: i'd like to do it all at once
[rechenma] 8:17 pm: but if need be, kirk's right
[rechenma] 8:17 pm: static stuff can go up
[mark] 8:17 pm: Definitely. We can keep some stuff "under construction".
[kaptain80] 8:17 pm: so would I, just wnat to make sure there's a contingency plan
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[JoshinTucson] 8:18 pm: Agreed, the database is a low priority
[rechenma] 8:18 pm: jamie and megha...try logging out and logging in
[JoshinTucson] 8:18 pm: Putting a good face on SEDS is much higher.
[mark] 8:18 pm: So how about, if we haven't got the database figured out by August 17 (next Wednesday), we implement the site without it.
[rechenma] 8:18 pm: then see if your web features change
[rechenma] 8:18 pm: sounds like a happy solution, mark
[mark] 8:18 pm: And then get the database going as soon as possible.
[mark] 8:18 pm: Excellent.
[rechenma] 8:18 pm: i can always throw some "coming soon" signs up too
[rechenma] 8:19 pm: the reason i want to do it all at once is stupid
[rechenma] 8:19 pm: i sort of need to be "in the mood" or "in the groove" when working
[mark] 8:19 pm: No way it's nice to implement a full site.
[rechenma] 8:19 pm: so i need to set aside a good few hours
[mark] 8:20 pm: Okay, does anyone have any other business they would like to bring up now? We have completed the agenda.
[kaptain80] 8:20 pm: one thing to announce -- updated conference schedule: http://www.space2005.org/files/Conference_Schedule_v20050802.pdf
[j_me] 8:20 pm: will I be talking about ed. outreach next week?
[JoshinTucson] 8:20 pm: Merely a reminder for people to consider joining in on the National Project with their chapters
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[rechenma] 8:21 pm: you can do it now if you wish, Jamie
[rechenma] 8:21 pm: i think the plan was for next week, but if you're ready
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[mark] 8:21 pm: Yeah I have some time now if you want, J_me
[sharm4f5] 8:22 pm: sorry bout that, was kicked out
[j_me] 8:22 pm: I wanted to talk first about the workshop at the national conference in Nov
[kaptain80] 8:23 pm: ok
[j_me] 8:23 pm: I think it was a good suggestion
[j_me] 8:23 pm: to have the workshop for people
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[j_me] 8:24 pm: who were interested in reaching out to their communities
[j_me] 8:24 pm: and local schools
[j_me] 8:24 pm: so I've been doing a little work
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[j_me] 8:25 pm: with organizations in Seattle and Boston
[j_me] 8:25 pm: that already exist to help kids
[sharm4f5] 8:26 pm: cool....
[kaptain80] 8:27 pm: cool, good response so far?
[j_me] 8:27 pm: it's been met with a lot of enthusiasm
[senning] 8:27 pm: (sidenote: does anybody have a transcript of the meeting from

7:00 on?
[mark] 8:27 pm: Excellent. Hoping to turn around and present that at the

conference then?
[j_me] 8:28 pm: so I think I'm going to just keep talking to people
[j_me] 8:28 pm: yeah...
[kaptain80] 8:28 pm: a quick note about how I've scheduled edu outreach at the

conf -- you can look at http://www.space2005.org/files/Conference_Schedule_v20050802.pdf
[j_me] 8:28 pm: take my information and experiences and pass it on
[senning] 8:28 pm: if you could email it to me (jsenning@gmail.com) I'd

appreciate it- I'm going to do minutes.
[kaptain80] 8:28 pm: there is a two-hour block of just workshops -- edu

outreach, publications, web, finance, projects, and policy
[kaptain80] 8:29 pm: these are meant to represent the different board positions

in SEDS
[JoshinTucson] 8:29 pm: are they all going to be concurrent? or 1 hour blocks?
[kaptain80] 8:29 pm: so I'd like to have the old directors and new directors

(elected the night before) develop ideas for the coming year with the students that are right there

at the conf
[kaptain80] 8:29 pm: all concurrent -- take a look at Sat
[mark] 8:30 pm: (afk a few minutes)
[JoshinTucson] 8:30 pm: (I have been in here the entire time senning)
[kaptain80] 8:30 pm: the idea is that the new directors can make some headway

with their "committees" before going home, where the communications will subsist on

email/phone
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[kaptain80] 8:31 pm: that's all I had
[rechenma] 8:32 pm: am i still here?
[rechenma] 8:32 pm: just checking
[JoshinTucson] 8:32 pm: yes
[kaptain80] 8:32 pm: there you are
[rechenma] 8:32 pm: <-- hates silence
[mark] 8:32 pm: I love the idea, Kirk
[mark] 8:32 pm: Of the directors getting headway.
[palashbasu] 8:33 pm: whats the idea, i got disconnected
[j_me] 8:33 pm: so, which is the edu outreach session?
[kaptain80] 8:33 pm: 1pm on Saturday, Nov 12 -- is that what you mean?
[mark] 8:33 pm:
[kaptain80] 8:30 pm: the idea is that the new directors can make

some headway with their "committees" before going home, where the communications will subsist

on email/phone
[j_me] 8:34 pm: ah, I see it now
[palashbasu] 8:35 pm: i see, this is during the conference
[kaptain80] 8:35 pm: cool, I'll work with you over the next few weeks to write

up a few paragraphs about desired workshop outcomes
[mark] 8:35 pm: So were you going to put everything together and then present it

at the conference? Or did you have any ideas for things we can do between then and

now?
[palashbasu] 8:35 pm: its not new, i knew this already
[j_me] 8:36 pm: what else did you have in mind?
[mark] 8:37 pm: Oh I don't have any ideas, was just curious.
[j_me] 8:37 pm: anyway, I got to head home...it's getting late here
[j_me] 8:38 pm: I'll talk more about this at our next meeting
[mark] 8:38 pm: Okay. Shall we adjourn the meeting then?
[sharm4f5] 8:38 pm: wat time is it there, jamie?
[j_me] 8:38 pm: 9:38
[sharm4f5] 8:38 pm: i am sorry but where are u?
[rechenma] 8:38 pm: weird...it's 3:15 here
[j_me] 8:38 pm: Boston
[rechenma] 8:38 pm: but my clock's broke
[sharm4f5] 8:38 pm: kkkk
[palashbasu] 8:39 pm: 3:15??
[mark] 8:39 pm: Okay. If nothing else, then this meeting is official closed.

Thanks for coming! Great attendance tonight.
[rechenma] 8:39 pm: meeting next week
[palashbasu] 8:39 pm: great ideas, mark!!
[rechenma] 8:39 pm: same time and place
[j_me] 8:39 pm: see you next time...
[sharm4f5] 8:39 pm: yep
[mark] 8:39 pm: Yes.
[senning] 8:39 pm: hey jamie, if you could send me your transcript before you

leave
[senning] 8:39 pm: email it to jsenning@gmail.com
[mark] 8:39 pm: Everyone please check out

http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/Ideas and post ideas if you have them.
[mark] 8:40 pm: Everything I've posted there I will be bringing up in coming

weeks to the sedsexec list, bwa ha ha ha.
[sharm4f5] 8:40 pm: n jess if u could email me the mins after u compile it?
[mark] 8:40 pm: Jess has agreed to post the transcript and minutes from this

meeting, thanks Jess.
[sharm4f5] 8:40 pm: aite
[senning] 8:40 pm: actually, I am making a wiki site for them
[sharm4f5] 8:40 pm: that works
[senning] 8:40 pm: but yes I will send them =)
[JoshinTucson] 8:40 pm: Goodnight all.
[sharm4f5] 8:40 pm: thanks
[mark] 8:41 pm: Even better. Night everyone.
[kaptain80] 8:41 pm: Goodnight, talk toyou all soon
[palashbasu] 8:41 pm: i'm off, people. peace
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[senning] 8:41 pm: might
[senning] 8:41 pm: rather, night.
[rechenma] 8:41 pm: does anyone else hate the word "wiki"?
[mark] 8:41 pm: Aww I like it.
[sharm4f5] 8:41 pm: quite so
[rechenma] 8:42 pm: then again...Google grew on me
[kaptain80] 8:42 pm: it grows on you
[rechenma] 8:42 pm: we can't just make up words...i don't like this new

"internet" culture
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[sharm4f5] 8:42 pm: night everyone
[rechenma] 8:42 pm: 'nite
[mark] 8:43 pm: Haha. That's where you and I different, Alex. I'm completely immersed in the internet culture.
[mark] 8:43 pm: are different*
[mark] 8:43 pm: or differ
[mark] 8:43 pm: Not sure where my hands were going with that one.
[rechenma] 8:43 pm: haha
[mark] 8:44 pm: Alex want to give the telecon service a whirl?
[mark] 8:44 pm: So you can see how it works?
[rechenma] 8:44 pm: is it free?
[mark] 8:45 pm: Yep.
[mark] 8:45 pm: Just the cost of the call.
[mark] 8:45 pm: 413-200-7075
[mark] 8:45 pm: For the meeting room, dial SEDS followed by the # sign
[rechenma] 8:46 pm: ok...give me a minute or two
[rechenma] 8:46 pm: need to do something
[mark] 8:46 pm: k
[mark] 8:46 pm: Everyone else can call in too and try it out
[mark] 8:46 pm: I'm in it now.
[mark] 8:47 pm: Going to log out of here, later.
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