SEDSAT-2 Meeting Transcript 20061210

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Lavina Parwani, Geoff Hilton, Kirk Kittell, and Tom entered the room.

  • Geoff Hilton: Yay!
  • Lavina Parwani: hello everyone :)
  • Tom: hi
  • Lavina Parwani: Alright. You three are all I have on my list
  • Kirk Kittell: haha, so many problems today ;)
  • Lavina Parwani: haha
  • Lavina Parwani: Does everyone know how to invite?
  • Tom: we're still missing a few though....
  • Geoff Hilton: yup!
  • Lavina Parwani: yeah
  • Kirk Kittell: Amrut just logged into Yahoo
  • Kirk Kittell: what about Mike?
  • Lavina Parwani: We can add him on here
  • Kirk Kittell: I see him on Yahoo
  • Lavina Parwani: what's his Yahoo address?
  • Geoff Hilton: I'm honoured, Lavina :)
  • Lavina Parwani: haha
  • Tom: fist scandinavian in space last night btw:)
  • Geoff Hilton: I sent him an e-mail, we hadn't added eachother to our lists yet
  • Geoff Hilton: yay Tom!
  • Lavina Parwani: Yes, Tom :D
  • Lavina Parwani: Added Michael to my list, although he may want to sign on to MSN proper
  • Lavina Parwani: What's Amrut's address again?

Amrut entered the room.

  • Lavina Parwani: yay
  • Lavina Parwani: we are now 4
  • Lavina Parwani: what about Michael?
  • Lavina Parwani: and this new Germany guy, Jay?
  • Lavina Parwani: *German
  • Kirk Kittell: yep
  • Amrut: hi.. amrut here from India
  • Geoff Hilton: mike doesn't have msn, I told him about Gaim though, heh
  • Kirk Kittell: Jay said he is downloading MSN
  • Lavina Parwani: Hi Amrut :)
  • Geoff Hilton: woops
  • Lavina Parwani: Oh
  • Kirk Kittell: (and guy from Germany)
  • Geoff Hilton: I think I accidentally denied your request Amrut
  • Kirk Kittell: mike doesn't have MSN msgr?
  • Geoff Hilton: ? odd, it says you have me but there's a red cross through your name anyway 0.o
  • Lavina Parwani: i think that means you blocked him?
  • Amrut: Geoff whts ur id?
  • Geoff Hilton: ? hope not
  • Geoff Hilton: my id?
  • Amrut: ya
  • Lavina Parwani: Geoff, Michael's saying to pass on any info that can get things to work for him
  • Lavina Parwani: hehe
  • Lavina Parwani: What's he using anyhow?
  • Tom: register a passport account, takes about 2mins...
  • Geoff Hilton: he was using yahoo messenger proper
  • Lavina Parwani: he's not getting anything

Jay entered the room.

  • Geoff Hilton: ?
  • Lavina Parwani: Hey, Jay
  • Tom: hi
  • Jay: hi everybody
  • Geoff Hilton: hmm, if I blocked you Amrut, how do I unblock with gaim?
  • (9:31:53 AM) Amrut: hi jay
  • Geoff Hilton: I've never blocked anyone before
  • Geoff Hilton: Hi Jay :)
  • Jay: hi Geoff and everybody nice to meet u all
  • Lavina Parwani: right click, Geoff and unblock
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, we will wait 5 min and then start -- to let Mike have a chance to arrivce
  • Geoff Hilton: Aha, no more red cross
  • Amrut: sure
  • Lavina Parwani: Ok, I emailed Mike
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, if he's not arriving soon, let's begin
  • Kirk Kittell: two things today --
  • Kirk Kittell: 1) more subsystems discussion
  • Kirk Kittell: 2) how to bring in more students
  • Kirk Kittell: Tom, do you have any good info about paylads for us?
  • Kirk Kittell: just something basic would be good -- to understand the order of magnitude involved
  • Tom: well the camera is a very basic standard payload for cubesats it seems
  • Tom: other kinds of remote sensing soon get very complicated(like SAR, lasers etc)
  • Tom: esp when we are limited to the small form factor that we are
  • Tom: I think one important thing we have to do is to decide exactly what we want to observe
  • Lavina Parwani: I agree
  • Tom: do we want to just take pictures, or are we looking at something specific, and if so which wavelengths(and as a result devices) do we need to focus on...
  • Geoff Hilton: How about my "zoom into x, look into y lady's house window" idea from last week?
  • Geoff Hilton: lol
  • Lavina Parwani: haha
  • Lavina Parwani: Tom, why don't you mention that thing about the algae :)
  • Lavina Parwani: We won't call you algae man, I promise
  • Kirk Kittell: I had an idea about narrowing down what to look at -- what if we submit a request for proposals to students or universities?
  • Tom: taking pictures is something is a good mission, but it's not by any means unique unless we get some sort of super-imaging
  • Geoff Hilton: but what do wavelengths have to do with pictures? I'm don't know much about physics
  • Lavina Parwani: YOu can image at different wavelengths, not just standard visible light
  • Tom: heh yeah I was thinking about maybe trying to take pictures of algea in the sea
  • Geoff Hilton: oh, I didn't know that
  • Lavina Parwani: depending on what you look at, different wavelengths will give you more information compared to visible light
  • Geoff Hilton: and they still come out as standard pictures?
  • Lavina Parwani: Nope
  • Lavina Parwani: Look at the SOHO website
  • Lavina Parwani: did you really think we had a green sun? ;)
  • Geoff Hilton: lol
  • Geoff Hilton: link?
  • Lavina Parwani: And some of the pictures that come to us of nebulae and supernovae have been enhanced at different wavelengths (red, blue, etc) to give us a clearer idea of what elements are present
  • Lavina Parwani: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
  • Geoff Hilton: oh okay
  • Lavina Parwani: Speaking of which, Tom did suggest looking at the sun
  • Kirk Kittell: did you see any info about the algae research Tom?
  • Tom: there are several satellites out there used for it
  • Tom: and we looked at the wavelengths, and they were within the range of a sample cmos imager from Kodak
  • Geoff Hilton: Wow. Amazing pictures, I see what you mean.
  • Geoff Hilton: how much zoom could we afford?
  • Tom: http://www.csc.noaa.gov/crs/rs_apps/issues/seawifs_hab.htm
  • Lavina Parwani: it's a 10x10x10 1kg satellite
  • Lavina Parwani: we have to be realistic
  • Geoff Hilton: anything to pierce a few galaxies? or the equivalent to a polaroid?
  • Tom: I don't think we could count on much zoom
  • Geoff Hilton: hmmm
  • Kirk Kittell: but we may not need much zoom -- it could be the case that there is missing data that we could view on a larger scale
  • Lavina Parwani: Tom, do you still have the link to the camera? Not the pdf, just the site, so they have a general summary
  • Kirk Kittell: or we could test out a new camera for that wavelength
  • Lavina Parwani: oh, that's good
  • Tom: 2sec
  • Kirk Kittell: in general, scientists do not want to test new technology on an expensive full mission -- they want to test on a less expensive mission
  • Geoff Hilton: if it were a high resolution picture...that could make up for some zoom
  • Lavina Parwani: In that case, proposals from different universities might be good, Kirk; we can talk to the different physics departments and ask them?
  • Lavina Parwani: I'm sure at least one is testing out a new optical system
  • Lavina Parwani: Have you heard of Robert Boyd?
  • Kirk Kittell: absolutely, you can email anyone :)
  • Tom: http://wwwno.kodak.com/NO/nb/dpq/site/SENSORS/name/ISSCMOSProductFamily
  • Lavina Parwani: He's a physicist at the University of Rochester that's made light travel than its speed in vacuum
  • Lavina Parwani: it travelled so fast that it travelled backward
  • Lavina Parwani: We could see maybe if they want to do space based research
  • Lavina Parwani: *that's made light travel faster
  • Geoff Hilton: wow
  • Amrut: cool
  • Amrut: sounds great
  • Lavina Parwani: I like it too
  • Kirk Kittell: oh, one more thing -- can one of you write the notes for this meeting?
  • Lavina Parwani: Unfortunately, I have to go soon, but I can start next week :)
  • Lavina Parwani: Can someone else do it just for this week?
  • Geoff Hilton: I would, but I have non-SEDS work to finish :'(
  • Tom: I'll do it...
  • Tom: do you mean copying the log from msn or just writing a short summary?
  • Lavina Parwani: Thanks, Tom
  • Kirk Kittell: both
  • Lavina Parwani: both,I think
  • Tom: ok
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, so algae and fast light -- two first ideas for research
  • Kirk Kittell: (it's nice to finally talk about specific things)
  • Lavina Parwani: :)
  • Lavina Parwani: Yes.
  • Kirk Kittell: Lavina, 'cos you have to go -- what sort of info did you learn this week?
  • Lavina Parwani: Mostly that dipole antennas were used, and radio communication was the primary form of communication. UASat tested out a digital LASER communication, but I wasn't able to find info on how it worked
  • Tom: that must be very difficult....the laser that is
  • Lavina Parwani: yeah. It was quite involved
  • Tom: you have to have mm accuracy
  • Lavina Parwani: The specifications for the radio communications are up on the wiki, but that is the information in general
  • Lavina Parwani: We are just doing radio communication, am I right?
  • Kirk Kittell: I think so
  • Kirk Kittell: if your research says that is the best idea
  • Geoff Hilton: how would that work exactly, from a technical aspect, is there a modem involved?
  • Lavina Parwani: Yes, there's a modem involved
  • Lavina Parwani: As for antennas, we have a choice between dipole and monopole
  • Geoff Hilton: what's the difference?
  • Lavina Parwani: if I had another week, I could try and come up with a pros and cons table for each
  • Tom: one thing I think we should keep in mind is the expected bandwidth we get
  • Tom: high res imaging would require compression etc
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah..you mentioned 9600 baud last week, Tom
  • Geoff Hilton: it could require patience and a good HD instead...hehe
  • Geoff Hilton: or...I thought of this early last week
  • Lavina Parwani: Yep, 9600 baud seems standard for most Cubesats
  • Tom: and the possible use of algorithms like jpeg2000(lossless)
  • Tom: or perhaps the development of a new algorithm could be part of our mission if some university wants to test this,,,
  • Lavina Parwani: Geoff, I'm not very clear yet on the difference between dipole and monopole antennas. As soon as I am, I'll email/post it :)
  • Kirk Kittell: and don't be shy about posting it on the blog ;)
  • Lavina Parwani: Of course :) Hehe
  • Kirk Kittell: consider the blog as a lab notebook that you can write in
  • Geoff Hilton: several USB flash keys (enough to take up the size of one HD, say) might be better...it would might weigh less, overall
  • Lavina Parwani: I apologise for the semi lack of preparedness; things have just been hectic
  • Kirk Kittell: you're a student, it's ok :)
  • Tom: we would probably just use flash and not the usb keys though...
  • Tom: not to be picky:)
  • Geoff Hilton: ditto, Lavina :S
  • Geoff Hilton: eh, I've always seen them as one and the same
  • Geoff Hilton: but then, I've yet to buy one, so I've never bothered looking into it
  • Tom: but this again is a good point if you ask me, if it takes too long to download one image/whatever it might increase the chance of us not getting any results
  • Tom: cubesat lifespans can be quite short
  • Tom: if it takes 4months to download one pictures, it might limit what we could use it for
  • Geoff Hilton: 4 months?!
  • Tom: just giving an example, depends on what our facilities for downloading would be
  • Tom: how many passes we would get each day
  • Tom: and the size of the picture, bandwidth of the link etc
  • Geoff Hilton: oh, we only have windows of opportunity to communicate?
  • Geoff Hilton: we could automate the process
  • Lavina Parwani: we could
  • Geoff Hilton: calculate the windows and link up automatically
  • Lavina Parwani: also, we could take advantage of Ground Station networks
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah
  • Kirk Kittell: yes, Amrut was talking about ground stations offline -- he may have an idea about that
  • Tom: I had a thought about this, if we could create a network of all the university cubesat groundstations and make a sort of distributed downloading schemem, we coudl share our facilities between all the cubesat projects...
  • Geoff Hilton: I like that idea
  • Lavina Parwani: Me, too
  • Amrut: yes, i can talk to my prof to help in this regard .. if i get basic information
  • Lavina Parwani: Amrut, I'll have ground station research up on the Wiki in the course of next week
  • Lavina Parwani: I could send you the preliminary, unsorted stuff I have though
  • Geoff Hilton: hmm, wait, that would mean bits of our data would be on other cubesats in transit?
  • Tom: something kind of like BOINC(Seti@home) perhaps
  • Lavina Parwani: if you like
  • Lavina Parwani: yeah. Share the work, righ?
  • Amrut: ok
  • Tom: I was thinking more about the ground station part, but yeah that could be done too
  • Amrut: will be looking for that
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah, but copies would need to be kept for redundancy
  • Tom: although most of the cubes wouldn't have the capacity to do this I would imagine
  • Jay: guys there is one more thing i would like to mention.. There is a research concept called power beaming going my univ... We can power up the sat using powerful laser beams..(especially if life span of sat isshorter) if its feasible may be i will prepare a small write up abt it
  • Geoff Hilton: if a cubesat has half of an image on it and it breaks down or leaves orbit, that part of the image is worthless
  • Jay: for the next meetin
  • Kirk Kittell: oh yeah, Tom -- send some info or a link to the list
  • Geoff Hilton: why if the lifespan is shorter? does it damage it? 0.o
  • Lavina Parwani: That's an interesting idea, Jay
  • Jay: no its not fesible to use powerbeaming for recharging manier times
  • Lavina Parwani: And certainly new enough to be interesting for a CubeSat
  • Lavina Parwani: oh
  • Jay: may i ask what is the expected life span of cubesat
  • Jay: i m sorry i was not very prepared for the meeting
  • Kirk Kittell: this may be wrong -- do most of them last a few months?
  • Tom: a year at the very most
  • Tom: but many of them don't actually last this long
  • Kirk Kittell: and some only last days or weeks 'cos they run on batteries
  • Tom: but that is what one designs for
  • Tom: that was for the solar panel ones
  • Geoff Hilton: :O ouch, I was hoping for longer :(
  • Tom: what about formation flying, that's very "in" nowadays....
  • Lavina Parwani: I'm really sorry, but I have to run :( I'll read up on what I missed as soon as it's posted on the wiki
  • Tom: releasing a small mini-satellite from the cube
  • Lavina Parwani: How small?
  • Kirk Kittell: no wories Lavina :) do well on your exam
  • Lavina Parwani: Thanks, Kirk.
  • Amrut: best of luck!
  • Geoff Hilton: Attached to my resumé: "Run this script to determine sedsat2's current location, then look up"
  • Lavina Parwani: Ciao :)
  • Jay: ya best of luck
  • Tom: good luck; I know how you feel. I have an exam in astronomy in the morning
  • Tom: :)
  • Lavina Parwani: thanks :)

Lavina Parwani left the room.

  • Kirk Kittell: ok, can we call an end to the subsystem discussion? or would you like to add anything else?
  • Jay: well i would try to get a fesiblity analysis for the power beaming for the next meeting
  • Geoff Hilton: how does that work though? why is it only good if it's a short lifespanned cubesat?
  • Jay: normally its expensive to beam up high energy laser beams so they use it for shorter misssions
  • Geoff Hilton: the lazers carry electricity?
  • Jay: ya i guess
  • Jay: i m not in a situvation to explain more abt it may be next time i will be more prepared
  • Geoff Hilton: lol, layman moment there
  • Geoff Hilton: oh okay
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, guys -- I am going to leave w/in 15 minutes, so let's talk about recruiting for a moment (and then you can go back to payload)
  • Geoff Hilton: :)
  • Kirk Kittell: so here's the deal
  • Kirk Kittell: we are too few, did you notice? :)
  • Geoff Hilton: just a tad
  • Kirk Kittell: but that is by design -- we are the Phase A team
  • Geoff Hilton: oh?
  • Kirk Kittell: doing the research on feasibility and basic mission concepts
  • Geoff Hilton: cool :)
  • Kirk Kittell: if we did that in a large group.... chaos
  • Kirk Kittell: and it is hard to recruit people to work on a very vague technical project -- will get a better response if we say specific things
  • Amrut: yes, that can work
  • Kirk Kittell: that we want to build a RS CubeSat, and launch it near a certain time
  • Geoff Hilton: oh okay
  • Kirk Kittell: people will think we are serious, and importantly -- the students' professors will think it is serious and help
  • Geoff Hilton: cool
  • Kirk Kittell: that is the strategy, at least
  • Jay: ya true
  • Amrut: now u ar on track ;)
  • Kirk Kittell: but now that we are talking more specifically, it's time to get some help
  • Kirk Kittell: here is an idea -- I would like your criticisms about it
  • Kirk Kittell: (i am never totally right)
  • Amrut: ahah
  • Geoff Hilton: hehe
  • Kirk Kittell: I was thinking of releasing an application to join the CubeSat team
  • Kirk Kittell: students would list their interests, experience (not necessary except for subsystem leads), how much time they have available
  • Geoff Hilton: to the public(students)?
  • Amrut: we can do it.. but we need someone to look over it
  • Amrut: students
  • Kirk Kittell: yes, I can build a small board of people to look over it
  • Amrut: ok
  • Kirk Kittell: just created an advisory board for SEDS-USA that can help
  • Geoff Hilton: like SEDS-HR
  • Tom: and the criteria would be some sort of seds membership right?
  • Kirk Kittell: I think that preference should be given to SEDS members, but not make it exclusive
  • Amrut: membership? i don't think so
  • Kirk Kittell: Amrut is a good example ;)
  • Kirk Kittell: though once people join the sat team, they may wish to also join SEDS...
  • Amrut: ummmm
  • Tom: is it possible to join just seds-eath if you have no local seds chapter in you country btw?
  • Kirk Kittell: yep
  • Tom: *earth
  • Tom: ok, because I have someone who might be interested, and he's at the University of Oslo...(we don't have seds in Norway=
  • Kirk Kittell: yeah, that is fine
  • Geoff Hilton: I know someone as well, he'll be starting electrical engineering in january
  • Kirk Kittell: one other important point -- I think every student, or at least every uni involved should also include the name of a faculty mentor
  • Kirk Kittell: that can help you/them
  • Amrut: yes, u r right
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, then the next issue is timeline -- when to close applications and when to start?
  • Amrut: do u have application format?
  • Geoff Hilton: an online form?
  • Amrut: online or offline...
  • Kirk Kittell: Cal Poly has a good example form... trying to find it
  • Kirk Kittell: it is a document that they can print and give to a professor ('cos it is just at one university)
  • Kirk Kittell: I think we could simply take an email application or a PDF file
  • Kirk Kittell: say -- email us with the following info: name, college, field of study, etc....
  • Geoff Hilton: how selective would we be?
  • Kirk Kittell: here is the ap -- on the left side of page where it says "apply to polywat" -- http://polysat.calpoly.edu/contact.php
  • Kirk Kittell: to participate, not very selective -- would be most selective for subsystem leads
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah
  • Kirk Kittell: then you would want someone to dedicate time and have expertise (or access to a prof w/ expertise)
  • Geoff Hilton: wait, aren't subsystem leads selected already?
  • Geoff Hilton: or do you mean sub-subsystem, type of thing?
  • Kirk Kittell: prelim subsystem lead for study
  • Tom: that's only a preliminary thing
  • Geoff Hilton: oh ok
  • Kirk Kittell: Phase A leads to develop the concept of the satellite
  • Kirk Kittell: but it could be the same people
  • Geoff Hilton: I see
  • Kirk Kittell: I'm not kicking any of you out ;)
  • Kirk Kittell: only myself
  • Geoff Hilton: lol
  • Geoff Hilton: eh?
  • Kirk Kittell: we should write up our prelim results when we give out the application
  • Geoff Hilton: oh you're only going to stick around to get us started?
  • Kirk Kittell: oh no, I'll be around
  • Kirk Kittell: but I'll only participate in the design if I'm a student
  • Geoff Hilton: oh okay
  • Kirk Kittell: (and I might be -- have already been talking to someone about a PhD in my area... so this may push me harder)
  • Kirk Kittell: curse all of you for making this a fun project and tempting me w/ more school....
  • Tom: what is your area?
  • Geoff Hilton: cool! :D
  • Kirk Kittell: systems engr
  • Geoff Hilton: hahaha
  • Kirk Kittell: let's set a date for writing up our prelim results
  • Kirk Kittell: and then we'll send the application out that day
  • Geoff Hilton: can it be 2 weeks this time? (at least)
  • Kirk Kittell: I would say a little more
  • Tom: wouldn't that be in the middle of christmas
  • Kirk Kittell: I know that around Christmas I will be busy
  • Geoff Hilton: good point
  • Geoff Hilton: ditto
  • Tom: actually christmas eve.)
  • Tom: ;(
  • Geoff Hilton: I'll be in Ontario 21st-29th
  • Kirk Kittell: haha, we will see how interesting schedules become when we include each of our festivals ;)
  • Kirk Kittell: is Ontario where your home is?
  • Geoff Hilton: most of my family lives there
  • Geoff Hilton: :)
  • Kirk Kittell: ok
  • Geoff Hilton: but I'm born and raised here in Quebec city
  • Kirk Kittell: what do you say about 30 Dec?
  • Geoff Hilton: hmm
  • Tom: ok by me
  • Geoff Hilton: I suppose so :S
  • Jay: well i ll be in paris that time but i ll try to get a computer and catch up with u guys
  • Kirk Kittell: don't worry, there will be more reports to work on Geoff ;)
  • Geoff Hilton: I wonder if I'll get a chance to visit with family this xmas, even though I'll be staying with them
  • Geoff Hilton: lol
  • Kirk Kittell: and you can (should) work on it early
  • Geoff Hilton: most definitly
  • Kirk Kittell: and let's say that on 2 or 3 Jan we will send out that application
  • Kirk Kittell: because no one wants to do serious work and reply to applications on New Years Day ;)
  • Kirk Kittell: maybe a week later?
  • Kirk Kittell: or is 30 Dec a good place to hold tight?
  • Geoff Hilton: hehe no kidding
  • Geoff Hilton: I wouldn't object to an extra week
  • Amrut: haha 30 Dec .. party time
  • Kirk Kittell: let's say 5 Jan -- that is the following Sat
  • Kirk Kittell: and then release the application on Sunday night so that it is at the top of students' email inboxes on Monday morning
  • Geoff Hilton: 5? that's a friday on my calendar..?
  • Kirk Kittell: 6
  • Kirk Kittell: doh
  • Geoff Hilton: hehe
  • Geoff Hilton: sounds good
  • Tom: on the 6th I'll be travelling back to Wales
  • Tom: so I'm not sure if I'll be available
  • Geoff Hilton: I should be free February 10th...
  • Geoff Hilton: LOL
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, as long as you are available before to help, that is ok -- on 6 Jan will just be finishing the doc
  • Geoff Hilton: :)
  • Tom: ok
  • Tom: if it is at this time of day I might even make it, providing the trains here are actually on time.)
  • Geoff Hilton: they're on time in norway?
  • Tom: usually we complain if they're 5mins late
  • Kirk Kittell: haha
  • Kirk Kittell: ok, 6 Jan is the date
  • Tom: In Wales it's usual to be 5h delayed etc
  • Kirk Kittell: and if there aren't any other issues besides trains, I'll call the official meeting to a close
  • Tom: ok I'll upload the conversation to the seds wiki during later today
  • Tom: so we are meeting again next week?
  • Geoff Hilton: ok :)
  • Amrut: yes
  • Kirk Kittell: same tiem?
  • Kirk Kittell: time?
  • Amrut: same time
  • Geoff Hilton: don't see why not
  • Geoff Hilton: same bat channel..
  • Kirk Kittell: and if you are all finished with exams, please feel free to suggest meetings during the week
  • Geoff Hilton: or probably not, heh
  • Kirk Kittell: just send an email to the list and say "hey, is anyone available to chat tomorrow..."
  • Tom: I have my last exam tomorrow, so I'll be free probably
  • Geoff Hilton: :) Tom
  • Kirk Kittell: excellent
  • Tom: so what are we using next time?
  • Tom: msn?
  • Amrut: best of luck and do well
  • Tom: thanks
  • Kirk Kittell: haha
  • Geoff Hilton: everyone seems to have gmail, we could use that
  • Kirk Kittell: let's assume Yahoo first, and MSN secon
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah
  • Geoff Hilton: same procedure would be best
  • Kirk Kittell: and then if that doesn't work, we'll all go to the window and yell really loud ;)
  • Geoff Hilton: hahaha
  • Geoff Hilton: Smoke signals
  • Geoff Hilton: Ooh, I found info on DCH subsystems
  • Geoff Hilton: heh
  • Tom: by the way
  • Kirk Kittell: ok guys, I'm going to leave now -- I am at a hotel, moving my possessions from my parents' hosue to my new apartment
  • Tom: I can't register on protoforge
  • Kirk Kittell: lots of driving...
  • Kirk Kittell: ok Tom -- can you send an email to the list about that?
  • Kirk Kittell: Aaron shoudl be able to fix it
  • Tom: ok
  • Geoff Hilton: okay :)
  • Tom: I'm leaving now too>>>copying the conversation to notepad now
  • Tom: bye
  • Kirk Kittell: thanks Tom
  • Geoff Hilton: okay
  • Kirk Kittell: don't forget to write at blogs.seds.org/sedsat2
  • Jay: Auf Wiedersehen Tom
  • Kirk Kittell: talk to you all later
  • Geoff Hilton: will do
  • Kirk Kittell: ciao
  • Amrut: ok, bye guys
  • Amrut: see u soon
  • Geoff Hilton: I found an excellent PDF just now which should help with my research greatly
  • Geoff Hilton: bye Amrut & Tom & Kirk :)
  • Geoff Hilton: and Jay too, hehe
  • Jay: ya guys
  • Kirk Kittell: tell Yunir I said hello, Jay
  • Kirk Kittell: bye
  • Jay: i will
  • Jay: ok thn Auf Wiedersehen everybody

Tom left the room.

  • Amrut: i hope Yunir is well
  • Jay: hes doing fine
  • Amrut: tell him to mail me
  • Jay: i will
  • Amrut: thx

Kirk Kittell left the room.

  • Jay: hey Geoff and amrut
  • Jay: can u spend a few moments
  • Amrut: for wht?
  • Jay: is pradeep incharge of structures subsystems
  • Amrut: i don't know.. as i was absent fr previous meeting
  • Jay: i c u know this is my first meeting i have not done any background info research on the Cubesat proj. Can u breif on the mission objective for cubesat 2
  • Geoff Hilton: ?
  • Geoff Hilton: yeah
  • Geoff Hilton: er, I believe so
  • Amrut: can i mail u? becz i need to leave now for dinner...
  • Jay: oh sure...
  • Geoff Hilton: yup, pradeep = structures
  • Amrut: let me have ur id....
  • Jay: Jay.harikrishnan@hotmail.com
  • Amrut: today he is absent.. i think he is busy with exams
  • Amrut: ok, i will get u soon
  • Jay: very welll
  • Jay: cio
  • Amrut: and wht u don?
  • Jay: i m doing masters program in space technology in TU Munich germany
  • Jay: and u
  • Amrut: BSC- III year with physics major
  • Jay: i c
  • Amrut: geoff.. i hope u ar aware of IAC07??? to be held in India
  • Geoff Hilton: :) I'm a programmer-analyst (not currently studying), Mike introduced me to SEDS :)
  • Geoff Hilton: IAC07? I might have heard of it...what does the acronym stand for?
  • Jay: good Geoff
  • Geoff Hilton: International Aerospace Consortium?
  • Geoff Hilton: heh
  • Amrut: nop! 58th International Astronautical Congress .. http://www.iac2007.org
  • Amrut: jayram.. i hope u will be attending the congress??
  • Jay: hmm i donno
  • Amrut: ahah
  • Jay: wat is the date
  • Geoff Hilton: hehe I was close
  • Amrut: September 24-28, 2007.. go through website for more information
  • Amrut: ya
  • Geoff Hilton: where is it?
  • Amrut: it's in Hyderabad, India
  • Jay: well if i m in India at that time i will attend
  • Amrut: ar we going to have SEDSAT-2 demonstration during IAC07.. if everything goes well (H)
  • Jay: kool
  • Amrut: http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/2007_SEDS_International_Conference look over this
  • Amrut: ok, guys.. bye for now
  • Amrut: keep in touch
  • Jay: ya
  • Jay: bye
  • Jay: bye Geoff and Amrut

Jay and Amrut left the room.

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