SEDSAT-2 Meeting Transcript 20061224
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- Tom says:
is anyone else coming?
- Geoff says:
good enugh heheh
- Jay says:
ya
- Jay says:
hi ppl
- Amrut says:
i don't think so...
- Tom says:
is kirk coming?
- Tom says:
or michael?
- Amrut says:
i tried to call him but unable to reach
- Tom says:
shuld we wait for him or just start?
- Jay says:
i suggest we start
- Amrut says:
sure.. or else u take the lead
- Tom says:
so I suppose we're doing the mission feasability study
- Amrut says:
yes, u ar right
- Geoff says:
it smells of last night's salsa , back in a minute gonna take the bowl downstairs in the kitchen
- Tom says:
we should discuss what has been added, and what remains to be added perhaps?
- Amrut says:
but be specific
- Tom says:
hmm ok, has everyone added to their part of the feasability study?
- Amrut says:
ok, then wht abt team?
- Tom says:
?
- Amrut says:
abt applications?
- Tom says:
wait a minute
- Tom says:
kirk is here
- Amrut says:
whr?
- Geoff says:
back!
- Tom says:
he's logging on to msn now
- Jay says:
hes offline to mw
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- Geoff says:
Merry Christmas Kirk!
- Amrut says:
ahaa.. nice to see u
- Geoff says:
and all who celebrate
- Amrut says:
Belated Happy Birthday to u Kirk..
- Kirk says:
hey, I'm finally here... sorry -- I am at my parents' house and didn't know the details to login to the dialup connection.....
- Kirk says:
thanks Amrut
- Geoff says:
birthday? oh? happy birthday!
- Kirk says:
I am like a visitor here
- Geoff says:
hehe ditto
- Tom says:
happy birthday
- Jay says:
oh belated b day wishes kirk
- Geoff says:
I'm just lucky the kids didn't turn off this computer (a mac) when they finished last night
- Amrut says:
i hope u got my sms on ur mobile>
- Kirk says:
i did , thanks Amrut
- Geoff says:
the computer is in the guest room, which is where I slept, they were still playing WoW by the time I fell asleep, lol
- Amrut says:
cool
- Amrut says:
can we start now?
- Kirk says:
sure
- Kirk says:
in the future, you can start without me -- I'm just an adviser
- Kirk says:
ok, updates --
- Kirk says:
from me;
- Kirk says:
two people accepted to be on the Mission Concept Review (MCR) board
- Kirk says:
Jim Burke, former program director on Ranger program (at JPL) and various other NASA programs
- Amrut says:
who ar they?
- Kirk says:
Juan de Dalmau, http://www.ctae.org
- Jay says:
hmm tats great
- Amrut says:
rock it..
- Kirk says:
(since it would take me an hour to type out the SPanish equivalent in CTAE)
- Kirk says:
(actually, it's Catalan, not Spanish)
- Kirk says:
he's the director of CTAE
- Geoff says:
nice!
- Geoff says:
lol
- Kirk says:
will be asking one or two pepole that I know well before New Years, then more after New Years
- Tom says:
Æ
- Kirk says:
because many people (like me ) will not check their email until after that
- Geoff says:
hehe yup ditto
- Amrut says:
u r right
- Kirk says:
also -- moved back the deadline of our document to 13 January after hearing your discussions
- Geoff says:
after tomorrow I won't have internet access until the 29th (when I get home)
- Geoff says:
or rather, starting tomorrow
- Kirk says:
yep, I understand, it was a good point that you made
- Geoff says:
- Kirk says:
also, I am searching for funding to bring people to India in September and asking for SEDS alumni to donate books for you to use
- Kirk says:
have received positive responses -- about $1000 available already for travel to India
- Kirk says:
and those are my updates
- Kirk says:
who is next?
- Amrut says:
approach ISRO.. they might help u
- Geoff says:
oh, and just for kicks, here's what I've done since my arrival: I've fixed a "printer not printing", a "player not playing" (button on the amp wasn't pressed), and I've set up wireless internet for this household (2 computers)
- Geoff says:
how cool am I?
- Geoff says:
lol
- Geoff says:
anyway, on with the meeting
- Tom says:
I'm going to add more details to the payload part of the MFS
- Geoff says:
ooh nice
- Tom says:
perhaps some ideas for how the different payloads could be implemented technically(where that is possible) and some crude cost calculations
- Tom says:
ok crude=not the word I was looking for...but you get the point
- Jay says:
i have got a few updates from my side
- Kirk says:
(crude is the word I would use myself)
- Jay says:
first is i can get the feasiblity study for power beaming only in after jan 6
- Jay says:
coz the prof went of vacation
- Jay says:
second thing is some ppl in my Univ are really intersted in joining the project
- Geoff says:
yay Jay!
- Jay says:
third is i talked abt this project to one of my system engineering prof he said he would help
- Jay says:
he also told he has a project report on LunarSat
- Jay says:
which would be much helpful to us
- Kirk says:
excellent -- it is very important to have support from your university
- Jay says:
i just got the see some of the LunarSat project report it was done for DLR
- Amrut says:
Astronautical Society of India and ISRO has nominated me to form ASI student Chapter in India.. and we are trying to host our first chapter during IAC07 in hyderabad and i will try to add SEDSAT2 meet if possible... i will try my level best to make it
- Jay says:
the System Engineering approach of LUnarSat project is very impressive
- Jay says:
i will try to get the report to u asap
- Jay says:
tats all frm me ppl
- Amrut says:
ok
- Kirk says:
ok, the report is looking better now
- Geoff says:
nice
- Kirk says:
please change anything in the report -- I only added the sections as a draft, you can change anything
- Kirk says:
this is the same for the main SEDSAT-2 wiki page -- you have rights to change anything to make it better
- Tom says:
what is the SAR in Glasgow? I just noticed it in the travel costs page...
- Kirk says:
do not be afraid to make a mistake -- wiki can be fixed
- Kirk says:
that is the 2008 IAC
- Tom says:
hmm Glasgow....interesting choice...
- Kirk says:
I thought it would be a good opportunity to meet face-t0-face again
- Tom says:
hey at least the travel costs will be low for me for one
- Tom says:
- once
- Kirk says:
(just a sec -- I'm loading the wiki on this slow dialup)
- Jay says:
me 2
- Kirk says:
here's what we need to do this week....
- Geoff says:
anyone know what the equivalent to notepad is, on a mac?
- Geoff says:
...
- Kirk says:
First: in the MFS (Mission Feasibility STudy, yay for acronyms ) -- include a one-paragraph biography for yourself
- Kirk says:
http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/SEDSAT-2_Mission_Feasibility_Study
- Geoff says:
"Born in Quebec, he teethed until he started computing at age 8."
- Geoff says:
done
- Geoff says:
- Kirk says:
the next: add info about your subsystem
- Kirk says:
if you have done this -- wonderful
- Kirk says:
if not -- bad bad bad
- Kirk says:
if all of the subsystems do not have info by next meeting, we will have to reassign some of you to cover that subsystem
- Kirk says:
third: during this week, find rough costs for your subsystem
- Kirk says:
when you find this info, post it to the email list
- Kirk says:
as well as the report
- Kirk says:
when you think about the cost, it may be confusing, so it will be helpful to discuss on the list
- Kirk says:
it may be most helpful to find similar cost information from other CubeSats
- Kirk says:
fourth (final): everyone must post one entry on the blog this week
- Kirk says:
it can be short, but post once
- Kirk says:
the blog will be very useful for publicity and fundraising
- Amrut says:
ok
- Kirk says:
1) bio 2) your subsystem info 3) cost info 4) blog
- Kirk says:
and as always, you are all editors for the full report
- Amrut says:
yes boss
- Kirk says:
grrr... I'm not the boss
- Kirk says:
you can modify my ideas
- Tom says:
I think this is one thing that makes our project stand out really...
- Tom says:
the fact that it's kind of "Open source"....
- Kirk says:
it's an open source satellite, really
- Kirk says:
haha
- Kirk says:
yeah, was just typing that
- Geoff says:
hehe
- Kirk says:
and then a few lucky people will also get to construct it
- Kirk says:
and then we meet somewhere and integrate it
- Kirk says:
and then some Russians (probably) get to launch it
- Geoff says:
- Tom says:
ncube flashback....
- Tom says:
it was on the dnepr 2 or whatever it was called...
- Kirk says:
the one that failed this summer?
- Tom says:
yeah
- Kirk says:
so was our satellite from U of Illinois
- Kirk says:
ION-1
- Geoff says:
a cubesat failed to launch?
- Kirk says:
Purvesh's satellite
- Kirk says:
the rocket failed
- Geoff says:
- Geoff says:
was it recoverable failure?
- Tom says:
but it's a good use of old icbms I suppose
- Tom says:
that's what they're using isn't it?
- Kirk says:
yep, I think it's a modified ICBM
- Geoff says:
the cubesat or the launcher?
- Kirk says:
launcher
- Geoff says:
oh ok, makes more sense, yeah
- Kirk says:
- Tom says:
I've heard some rumors about the Andøya Rocket Range launching some cubesats
- Tom says:
maybe I could ask them if that was ok
- Tom says:
www.rocketrange.no
- Kirk says:
maybe -- the real issue is that a CubeSat is a secondary payload, so we would have to share a rocket ride with a primary payload
- Kirk says:
(but you know that)
- Tom says:
yeah ofc
- Tom says:
but they might be launching some norwegian cubes anyway
- Kirk says:
ohhhh, cool
- Kirk says:
yeah, please, if you know someone, ask
- Kirk says:
- Tom says:
yeah I know people there, np
- Tom says:
Norway also has several receiving stations in the North, which might be and advantage when we eventually get the thing launched
- Tom says:
- an
- Kirk says:
excellent to hear
- Kirk says:
I have to learn about the ground stations end of the satellite...
- Kirk says:
are there any other items for this week?
- Geoff says:
doesn't seem like it...
- Kirk says:
does everyone have an account on blogs.seds.org/sedsat2?
- Kirk says:
first you have to apply for an account at blogs.seds.org
- Kirk says:
then when you do that, I have to give you editing permissions for our blog
- Amrut says:
i tried but failed to do that
- Kirk says:
was there a problem on the site?
- Amrut says:
i don't know.. i was not able to add my bio
- Kirk says:
on the wiki?
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- Amrut says:
on the blog
- Kirk says:
ok, I think we are done here
- Kirk says:
remember --------
- Kirk says:
1) bio in report 2) your subsystem info in report 3) cost info in report/email list 4) blog post
- Kirk says:
this week
- Amrut says:
ok
- Kirk says:
because I will be at home all week, I will remind you if no work is being done
- Jay says:
Kirk can we discuss abts SEDSGermany after thiss meeting ?
- Kirk says:
sure, just send me a msg
- Jay says:
ok
- Kirk says:
ok, see you all at the same time next week
- Kirk says:
if you are not busy during the week, send a msg to the list if you want to meet
- Tom says:
the chat transcript
- Kirk says:
can someone post the notes today?
- Tom says:
before anyone closes the window, I lost the history when I logged out earlier
- Geoff says:
I could try to save the transcript
- Geoff says:
not too familiar with macs though
- Kirk says:
just copy and paste into the wiki perhaps
- Kirk says:
and then let someone else format it
- Geoff says:
eheh
- Amrut says:
geoff= wht abt power?
- Geoff says:
there, just pasted and entered the transcript so far
- Geoff says:
power? hmm, Mike had that idea abou micro thrusters
- Geoff says:
about*
- Kirk says:
Geoff, shouldn't you say "aboot"
- Kirk says:
- Amrut says:
ok
- Geoff says:
only verbally
- Geoff says:
hehehe
- Kirk says:
I saw a license plate on the way to work last week: "EH HOSER"
- Kirk says:
i think he was Canadian
- Tom says:
if you guys don't mind I have a christmas dinner waiting for me here...
- Kirk says:
oh yeah -- mtg's over
- Kirk says:
sorry Tom
- Geoff says:
what of the micro thrusters idea? I imagine current knowledge dictates a certain size of thruster vs size of err...thrustee?
- Amrut says:
in next meeting can we discuss abt Power, Payload, and Structure.. if possible??
- Geoff says:
LOL Kirk
- Tom says:
one more thing
- Geoff says:
and Data handling!
- Tom says:
I can try to give approximate power usages if I come up with any technical suggestions(something I have to do if I'm to give any reasonable cost estimate)
- Geoff says:
good good
- Tom says:
and I can suggest some interfaces for the OBDH part
- Geoff says:
please do!
- Tom says:
ok but now I'm leaving if we're done here for today...
- Tom says:
kirk?
- Geoff says:
oh okay, send a mail to the seds list for me about the interfaces when you can?
- Kirk says:
yep, all done
- Tom says:
k goodbye then
- Kirk says:
have a good Christmas Tom
- Tom says:
merry christmas all
- Kirk says:
talk to you later
- Jay says:
ppl have a wonderful christmas
- Amrut says:
Happy Christam to u...
- Geoff says:
have a good supper Tom! merry christmas
- Amrut says:
and to all
